qunewsguy 370 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 After nearly 30 years of use, Gari's Advantage has officially been retired by WFSB and replaced with SAM's Guardian. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life 515 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 That's a y tho from me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesNews 180 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 9:32 PM, Yankees4life said: That's a y tho from me Because Gray has a group deal with SAM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycnewsjunkie 1256 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 8 hours ago, KentBrockman said: Because Gray has a group deal with SAM. I don’t think so; there are plenty of Gray stations using old stuff from Gari/615/Non-Stop. IIRC, Warner Chappell is charging their clients a crap ton if they want upgrades to music packages. Advantage badly needed updates, but the price probably wasn’t worth it, so WFSB went with Arnold instead. Same reason why WOOD dropped Primetime News if I’m not mistaken. Sad, but I can’t say I blame the stations at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 1856 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, nycnewsjunkie said: I don’t think so; there are plenty of Gray stations using old stuff from Gari/615/Non-Stop. IIRC, Warner Chappell is charging their clients a crap ton if they want upgrades to music packages. I know Warner Music Group (WC's owner) only licenses the name from WBD for continuity purposes, but it's just been a bad year to be associated with anything named Warner. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHSgoodiesWA 270 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Thirty years of the same music cuts is amazing, given a huge majority of stations aren't using the same package beyond 5-10 years at the most. I don't think we used any news jingles beyond 10 years in Yakima/Tri-Cities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atlnewsfan03 59 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, VHSgoodiesWA said: Thirty years of the same music cuts is amazing, given a huge majority of stations aren't using the same package beyond 5-10 years at the most. I don't think we used any news jingles beyond 10 years in Yakima/Tri-Cities. It's a wonder that WFSB viewers haven't did like what WPVI viewers did back in 1996 when WPVI tried to retire MCTYW, and demanding that WFSB keep "Advantage", similar to how WPVI viewers demand they keep MCTYW. The only few stations to keep same music package for decades with updated cuts or remasterings to prevent from sounding too dated... -- WPVI having "Move Closer To Your World" music since 1972, and 4 or 5 day break in 1996 when WPVI experimented with London Philharmonic version of MCTYW that didn't go over well with viewers that forced them to switch back to the iconic Al Ham version of MCTYW. WKBW used MCTYW twice (1972-2003 & 2008-2014), and WNEP has used Cliff Schwartz version since 1994. There's also no telling what WPVI would've looked and sounded like (in a what if scenario I've thought of) had they switched to other news music packages like Gari's "Hello News" and "The Great News Package" during most of the 80s and early 90s, and "Advantage" and "Newschannel" (also Gari themes) during most of the mid-to-late 90s and early 2000s, or 615 themes like "In-Sink" and/or "Propulsion" for most of the late 2000s and 2010s. -- WJZ used "Chroma Cues" since 1987. -- WRAL has used "In-Sink" since 1994. Edited January 2 by atlnewsfan03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesNews 180 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/31/2022 at 8:22 PM, nycnewsjunkie said: I don’t think so; there are plenty of Gray stations using old stuff from Gari/615/Non-Stop. IIRC, Warner Chappell is charging their clients a crap ton if they want upgrades to music packages. Advantage badly needed updates, but the price probably wasn’t worth it, so WFSB went with Arnold instead. Same reason why WOOD dropped Primetime News if I’m not mistaken. Sad, but I can’t say I blame the stations at all. Agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qunewsguy 370 Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 On 12/31/2022 at 8:22 PM, nycnewsjunkie said: I don’t think so; there are plenty of Gray stations using old stuff from Gari/615/Non-Stop. IIRC, Warner Chappell is charging their clients a crap ton if they want upgrades to music packages. Advantage badly needed updates, but the price probably wasn’t worth it, so WFSB went with Arnold instead. Same reason why WOOD dropped Primetime News if I’m not mistaken. Sad, but I can’t say I blame the stations at all. Breaking a bit of the fourth wall here, but we commissioned updates of Advantage from WC in 2019. They frankly were not great. Sometimes you just need to go in a completely different direction. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesNews 180 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) To be honest, WCPM only recycled the content from 615, Gari, Non-Stop, the Shelly Palmer catalog, and whatever else they acquired. With just a sprinkle of some uninspiring and forgetful updates mostly just from a select few 615 and Gari works, there haven't been brand new packages made since each of the bigger fish was gobbled up, unless you count New York's Very Own for WPIX, and Sinclair Curves and Glass. I don't know what WCPM is going to do now since the principal 615 composers left to form 11/One. Edited January 5 by KentBrockman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 716 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 10/31/2022 at 5:24 PM, qunewsguy said: After nearly 30 years of use, Gari's Advantage has officially been retired by WFSB and replaced with SAM's Guardian. While they're at it, the 1990's called and they want their logo back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrabbleship 427 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/10/2023 at 12:48 AM, DirtyHarry said: While they're at it, the 1990's called and they want their logo back. This logo didn't debut until 2004. And it's a bit long in the tooth to be fair. Everyone forgets the seven years WFSB didn't have Advantage and used two Advantage ripoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 716 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, scrabbleship said: This logo didn't debut until 2004. And it's a bit long in the tooth to be fair. It looks like it uses Garamond as the typeface, which was a 1980's/1990's thing. That's why I said the 1990s called and wanted their logo back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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