Adam MadMan 173 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Within the past month, cable network Oxygen has started to roll out OTA on subchannels of NBC/Telemundo O&Os. I noticed it a week or two ago, when a subchannel with the PSIP OXYGEN showed up on WVIT-DT4, though only yesterday did it actually start showing Oxygen programming, and watching both the cable and OTA feeds side by side, I was able to confirm that they're virtually identical. And in case you don't believe me, Trip of RabbitEars.info has logged the subchannels onto his site, which is a generally reliable source for OTA info. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 119 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Good addition - it's a shame that NBC hasn't consolidated LX News with NBC News Now, that'd be a great OTA option. Unfortunately with WNBC and WNJU channel sharing with 2x 1080i and 3 480i subchannel, this addition might make the already poor picture quality even worse in NY. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 1537 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 It'll be interesting to see how Spectrum and Altice react to a channel going from cable to broadcast, even if it's a declining network forced down to 480i; Spectrum and Altice dominate NY, thus why it might not be on there, but it's on in a bunch of markets where Comcast or Cox is primary. But if they decide to dump the cable carriage and go all-in on broadcast, you could see Tegna/Standard throw in the towel on True Crime Network and take Oxygen as Snapped does fine on whatever platform it gets put on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtFromGulfcoast 661 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Let me know when USA and Syfy come over the air. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 841 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Don't they make too much money for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpeedKing 263 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, DMA said: Good addition - it's a shame that NBC hasn't consolidated LX News with NBC News Now, that'd be a great OTA option. Unfortunately with WNBC and WNJU channel sharing with 2x 1080i and 3 480i subchannel, this addition might make the already poor picture quality even worse in NY. It’s why WNJU should probably go ATSC 3.0 sooner rather than later. Problem is lining up 1.0 hosts in a tightly packed market. Also maybe WCMH could replace Ion with Oxygen just so they can reduce their reliance on Scripps. Edited April 24, 2022 by TheSpeedKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life 480 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well...why not. Might as well move one of your 100 cable networks to OTA. I wonder if the gameplan is to set up an ATSC 3.0 subscription which will give you MSNBC, CNBC, USA and Syfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 1537 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Yankees4life said: Well...why not. Might as well move one of your 100 cable networks to OTA. I wonder if the gameplan is to set up an ATSC 3.0 subscription which will give you MSNBC, CNBC, USA and Syfy There is a DRM update coming to current tuners that will enable that, along with adding broadcast flag-like protection on network feeds (which shouldn't be a thing but we're in the age of secretary-designees and not passing FCC commissioner nominations, thus they'll try to get away with it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpeedKing 263 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 hours ago, mrschimpf said: There is a DRM update coming to current tuners that will enable that, along with adding broadcast flag-like protection on network feeds (which shouldn't be a thing but we're in the age of secretary-designees and not passing FCC commissioner nominations, thus they'll try to get away with it). I bet if you tell this to Uncle Perry, he'll think we're in the year 2200 and try to get NBC to replace whatever Scripps diginets he has and add cable networks to his NBC affiliate(s). It's actually a solid idea! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry 596 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Yankees4life said: I wonder if the gameplan is to set up an ATSC 3.0 subscription which will give you MSNBC, CNBC, USA and Syfy Good luck on that. I'm done paying for TV and so are a lot of other people. If it ain't free, I won't miss it. AFAIC, the networks aren't losing anything with free OTT. Back in the old days, the kind of movies shown on places like Pluto, Tubi, Xumo and Peacock would have been on free TV with commercials. Today, they're on OTT with commercials. They don't get whatever TV stations were paying for the movie, but they do get all the advertising which should theoretically be more money than what they got in "rental" fees before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 841 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 9:29 AM, TheSpeedKing said: It’s why WNJU should probably go ATSC 3.0 sooner rather than later. Problem is lining up 1.0 hosts in a tightly packed market. Also maybe WCMH could replace Ion with Oxygen just so they can reduce their reliance on Scripps. You have to wonder if this is what Scripps owns stations like WPXN for...at least in part... Hell, even stations like WMBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENDude 152 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 It would be interesting to know how many folks along Colorado's front range will ever tune into Oxygen because it's on a sub channel of KDEN-TV Telemundo Denver and not on KUSA-TV I would love to see ratings for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiere 50 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I didn't realize until seeing this thread but it looks as though NBCU went with WTVJ 6.4 and not WSCV for Oxygen. For years now there has been no 51.3, only .2 for TeleXitos and .4 for an SD Telemundo version for Palm Beach. Anyway, has any update on whether or not Spectrum dominated areas will get Oxygen OTA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life 480 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Requiere said: I didn't realize until seeing this thread but it looks as though NBCU went with WTVJ 6.4 and not WSCV for Oxygen. For years now there has been no 51.3, only .2 for TeleXitos and .4 for an SD Telemundo version for Palm Beach. Anyway, has any update on whether or not Spectrum dominated areas will get Oxygen OTA? Don't know but you can check here https://rabbitears.info/search.php?request=network_search&network=Oxygen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowBergen 406 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 7:47 PM, mrschimpf said: It'll be interesting to see how Spectrum and Altice react to a channel going from cable to broadcast, even if it's a declining network forced down to 480i; Spectrum and Altice dominate NY, thus why it might not be on there, but it's on in a bunch of markets where Comcast or Cox is primary. But if they decide to dump the cable carriage and go all-in on broadcast, you could see Tegna/Standard throw in the towel on True Crime Network and take Oxygen as Snapped does fine on whatever platform it gets put on. Oxygen is on Altice's line-up. I just checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 1537 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, NowBergen said: Oxygen is on Altice's line-up. I just checked. I meant more of a future question as to whether they'd take a lower-cost OTA feed over the current cable channel. Obviously Altice and Spectrum still carry the Oxygen cable network, but would they dump it next RTC go-around with Comcast if it's available for free over-the-air (along with a further cut in their already declining original programming budget)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1800 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 12:58 AM, Requiere said: I didn't realize until seeing this thread but it looks as though NBCU went with WTVJ 6.4 and not WSCV for Oxygen. For years now there has been no 51.3, only .2 for TeleXitos and .4 for an SD Telemundo version for Palm Beach. Anyway, has any update on whether or not Spectrum dominated areas will get Oxygen OTA? I'm not surprised. NBC O&Os get first blood for Oxygen OTA with Telemundo only picking them up on stations where there's no NBC O&O in the market (Houston for ex.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KS-IL-IA 39 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 So will Oxygen end up being like Ion, as either a cable or OTA secondary, depending on the market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1800 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 WTVJ 6.4 Miami has added it recently too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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