doublejman69 81 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Even if the FCC approved WSAW's Eagle River transmitter (and WIFR in Rockford, IL) it would take several years to get it on air. Instead of looking at field contour maps, the Longley-Rice maps are far more important and they show a hole in the Rhinelander, Oneida and Forest county area for WSAW plus the LP signal in Vilas county. If approved, Gray is getting the far better Northwoods signal. Remember too FOX is on a sub channel of WSAW in hd. Spending a lot of time in the UP area last few summers all the Marquette stations for the most part put out a poor signal outside of Marquette County, They are nonexistent once you get to closer to the Wisconsin border Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCB4TV 283 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, doublejman69 said: Even if the FCC approved WSAW's Eagle River transmitter (and WIFR in Rockford, IL) it would take several years to get it on air. Instead of looking at field contour maps, the Longley-Rice maps are far more important and they show a hole in the Rhinelander, Oneida and Forest county area for WSAW plus the LP signal in Vilas county. If approved, Gray is getting the far better Northwoods signal. Remember too FOX is on a sub channel of WSAW in hd. Spending a lot of time in the UP area last few summers all the Marquette stations for the most part put out a poor signal outside of Marquette County, They are nonexistent once you get to closer to the Wisconsin border With this transaction, are Gray's applications for the Eagle River and Rockford transmitters still relevant as they appear to be keeping WYOW and CBS moving to the WREX spectrum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenShine9 1116 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, doublejman69 said: Even if the FCC approved WSAW's Eagle River transmitter (and WIFR in Rockford, IL) it would take several years to get it on air. Instead of looking at field contour maps, the Longley-Rice maps are far more important and they show a hole in the Rhinelander, Oneida and Forest county area for WSAW plus the LP signal in Vilas county. If approved, Gray is getting the far better Northwoods signal. Remember too FOX is on a sub channel of WSAW in hd. Spending a lot of time in the UP area last few summers all the Marquette stations for the most part put out a poor signal outside of Marquette County, They are nonexistent once you get to closer to the Wisconsin border The new owner of WAOW could always set up a transmitter, or acquire a low-power signal, to build its signal up in that part of the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doublejman69 81 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, GoldenShine9 said: The new owner of WAOW could always set up a transmitter, or acquire a low-power signal, to build its signal up in that part of the market. WYOW and WMOW are only 20 miles apart, the new owners could apply to increase WMOWs power if they believe there's holes in the coverage. Now about WJFW and only having a LP with 1kw of power to cover Marathon, Portage, and Wood counties in which 80% of the market reside in... Edited February 13 by doublejman69 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tyrannical bastard 2224 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Seems like Marks selling out to Gray could help all of their markets. WBKP/WBUP being the only conflict...although that could be resolved with some creative engineering betwewn the two stations, and possibly a "failing station waiver if WBKP was kept. Alpena is the only market that lacks an NBC affiliate of its own, and Gray has been the owner that has fixed that in others recently, like Presque Isle and Mankato. And Glendive could benefit from having a major owner, they could at least restore some kind of local news presence there, that went away when Emelie Boyles left KXGN... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCB4TV 283 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 hours ago, doublejman69 said: WYOW and WMOW are only 20 miles apart, the new owners could apply to increase WMOWs power if they believe there's holes in the coverage. Now about WJFW and only having a LP with 1kw of power to cover Marathon, Portage, and Wood counties in which 80% of the market reside in... If it makes anyone feel better, it appears that WAOW currently has a CP to increase the main stick, RF9, from their current 63.2 kW to 100kW. Here's the projected coverage contour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megatron81 63 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I thought that Byron Allen was going to buy Quincy I didn't think Gray would but Quincy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CircleSeven 1385 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 (edited) Damn. It didn't take no time to sell those papers. Phillips Media of Harrison, Arkansas has acquired the Herald-Whig & the Courier-Post. Quincy Media president Ralph Oakley (whose family have ran the paper for nearly a century) wrote a message to the H-W readers. Edited February 28 by CircleSeven 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CubsFan79 37 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenShine9 1116 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 16 minutes ago, CubsFan79 said: I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. I'm not sure how much coverage that would improve though. Geographically, Rockford is a fairly small market with only a handful of counties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCB4TV 283 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 45 minutes ago, CubsFan79 said: I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. It's probably already a done deal as it would place CBS back on full power status. I expect the migration to occur as soon as Gray closes the sale or shortly thereafter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samantha 2670 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Remember that Gray has an NPRM out to allocate channel 9 to Freeport, Illinois... That, much like the Eagle River proceeding, probably vanishes. Edited March 12 by Samantha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrschimpf 695 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 2/28/2021 at 8:59 AM, CircleSeven said: Damn. It didn't take no time to sell those papers. Phillips Media of Harrison, Arkansas has acquired the Herald-Whig & the Courier-Post. Quincy Media president Ralph Oakley (whose family have ran the paper for nearly a century) wrote a message to the H-W readers. At least it was to what seems to be a family operation rather than Alden or Gannett (so far at least). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CircleSeven 1385 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 The deal is now on the docket. No. 21-87. Anyone who want to file a petition to deny, would have until April 12 to file. For oppositions to the deny petitions, would have until April 27 to file. And for replies, you would have to file those by May 7. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
who?cares 192 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I wonder who will end up with the 9 spin offs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoldenShine9 1116 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I'd expect WYOW to get a new callsign as it will be isolated from all the other "OW" stations (and would create confusion afterward). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yankees4life 313 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) Hopefully, the conflicting stations doesn't go to Tegna. Don't want anymore of that trash Edited March 13 by Yankees4life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheRyan 555 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 10 hours ago, CubsFan79 said: I could see CBS move to WREX sub channel if the deal with Gray and Quincy is approved. WIFR TV is a LP station. See how it plays out. I don't see why Gray couldn't keep WIFR's LP signal on the air, even if they were to simulcast on WREX's subchannel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yankees4life 313 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheRyan said: I don't see why Gray couldn't keep WIFR's LP signal on the air, even if they were to simulcast on WREX's subchannel. Yeah...it could easily be a ATSC 3.0 repeater as well if they want to do it one day. Edited March 13 by Yankees4life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CircleSeven 1385 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Rockford will no doubt be the one to watch. Even though WIFR is a low power station, and the FCC doesn't count LPs into the ownership limits, the Department of Justice (DOJ) could still look into Rockford under antitrust grounds. And since the deal is now docketed, I wouldn't be surprised your usual anti-consoliation advocacy groups (Free Press, cable groups, etc.) would mention Rockford in their informal objections. And since we have a democratic-run FCC, they tend to be more sympathetic to those groups of any of their concerns..... Back in 2016 during Nexstar-Media General, the DOJ ordered the parties to divest Lafayette, LA's LP KLAF-LD (and full power KADN) to a third party, even though Nexstar was going to keep MG's full power KLFY (and KLFY & KLAF-LD would've been allowable under FCC rules). But this was also during a democratic-ran FCC at that time. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tyrannical bastard 2224 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: Rockford will no doubt be the one to watch. Even though WIFR is a low power station, and the FCC doesn't count LPs into the ownership limits, the Department of Justice (DOJ) could still look into Rockford under antitrust grounds. And since the deal is now docketed, I wouldn't be surprised your usual anti-consoliation advocacy groups (Free Press, cable groups, etc.) would mention Rockford in their informal objections. And since we have a democratic-run FCC, they tend to be more sympathetic to those groups of any of their concerns..... Back in 2016 during Nexstar-Media General, the DOJ ordered the parties to divest Lafayette, LA's LP KLAF-LD (and full power KADN) to a third party, even though Nexstar was going to keep MG's full power KLFY (and KLFY & KLAF-LD would've been allowable under FCC rules). But this was also during a democratic-ran FCC at that time. Essentially, this deal would have Gray and Nexstar each controlling two stations, and each company having 3 networks (Gray with NBC, CW & CBS, and Nexstar with ABC, Fox and MyNetwork). Depending on how the market share is could throw Gray's further ownership of WREX into question, especially if they intend on consolidating WIFR further into WREX, or vice-versa. Rockford is also one of the few markets without its own PBS member station, so WTTW out of Chicago is piped in as their default PBS station. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ColtFromGulfcoast 536 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 15 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: Rockford is also one of the few markets without its own PBS member station, so WTTW out of Chicago is piped in as their default PBS station. Don't they also get WHA from Madison as well?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CubsFan79 37 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I can’t see a conflict with WIFR TV and WREX TV, with WIFR being a LP other than Rockford’s market size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jakob 18 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 12 hours ago, ColtFromGulfcoast said: Don't they also get WHA from Madison as well?? Yep, but it's Over The Air only, I checked the Comcast schedule and I didn't see WHA on there. Edited March 14 by Jakob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheRolyPoly 1652 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/14/2021 at 4:24 AM, ColtFromGulfcoast said: Don't they also get WHA from Madison as well?? And maybe even WQPT Moline as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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