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Why couldn't WBBM produce the WKBD newscast? They're the closest O&O to Detroit with a news operation.

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59 minutes ago, Georgie56 said:

Why couldn't WBBM produce the WKBD newscast? They're the closest O&O to Detroit with a news operation.

The only thing I can think of are WBBM’s ratings woes.

WCBS is a stronger station than WBBM. 

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On 1/17/2020 at 5:14 PM, TSSZNews said:

This has to be purely for political dollars, or Seattle would be in the mix. CBS is probably kicking themselves for tossing WGNT (Virginia/NC) and WTVX (West Palm).

WTVX's only news use was for hurricane purposes and was always an albatross; frankly for as little as we hear about it,  WBFS could sign off without any advanced notice at this point and very few people would even remember WBFS existed. As much as political revenue is something to be chased, it's probably an incredibly low amount on your average MyNetworkTV affiliate, and a little more, but still negligible on a CW affiliate since you have your usual mix of low-wattage advertisers giving loyal year-round revenue on court show/sitcom blocks enjoyed in offices, restaurants and medical facilities marketwide. 

 

34 minutes ago, rkolsen said:

The only thing I can think of are WBBM’s ratings woes.

WCBS is a stronger station than WBBM. 

The Dallas duopoly is likely very used to doing multiple newscasts for both KTVT/KTXA and have it down to an art, along with WCBS/WLNY; WBBM hasn't done anything outside of traditional timeslots outside of 'at your desk' shows and social. Station strength plays into it easily, but having the ethic/ability to produce multiple newscasts is likely much more of a factor.

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7 hours ago, Georgie56 said:

Why couldn't WBBM produce the WKBD newscast? They're the closest O&O to Detroit with a news operation.

I assume as well that it's a matter of KTVT having the infrastructure in place to do newscasts for other stations.

Years ago, before WGME did a 7PM weekday general purpose newscast, they ran a half-hour politics-themed newscast in the weeks leading up to the election. Not sure what the ratings were, but they sure vacuumed up a boatload of political ad dollars in that time slot. I wonder if that might be more of an ideal focus for this CBS venture if the goal is what everyone thinks it is. What I'm thinking is, have the originating station focus on national politics (the presidential race, balance of power in the Senate etc.) the have the MMJs focus on local and statewide races along with some local color on the presidential. Sure beats doing stand-ups at the scene of structure fires and drive-by shootings.

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last time WTVX had a newscast it was being produced by KUTV.

 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and again what happens after Election Day. I have a feeling these newscasts will get pulled by December 1st. Its also the same with the new news department going in @ WSFL

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15 hours ago, TheRolyPoly said:

To put it into perspective... its been 7 years since WKBD has aired a newscast, 15 years since WUPA has aired a newscast and yes... 22 years since WTOG has aired a newscast which was their former news department that ended in 1998.

WKBD last had a real newscast of their own when their news department was shuttered in 2002... then WXYZ ran it as “UPN Action News” until 2004. Nobody around here really counts “First Forecast Mornings” as much of anything and that was on WWJ as I recall...

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 I'm expecting the CW 10pm news for WKBD will be a backdoor pilot towards reintroduction of traditional news bulletins to WWJ

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52 minutes ago, nickp said:

 I'm expecting the CW 10pm news for WKBD will be a backdoor pilot towards reintroduction of traditional news bulletins to WWJ

It’s most likely just a political ad ploy... it’s unlikely they’ll start any kind of news department at all...

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3 hours ago, ns8401 said:

WKBD last had a real newscast of their own when their news department was shuttered in 2002... then WXYZ ran it as “UPN Action News” until 2004. Nobody around here really counts “First Forecast Mornings” as much of anything and that was on WWJ as I recall...

 

It was on WWJ from 5-7 a.m. but WKBD also had a 2-hour extension from 7-9 a.m.

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3 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

It was on WWJ from 5-7 a.m. but WKBD also had a 2-hour extension from 7-9 a.m.

Ah Randy Bhirdo and Syma Chowdrey were involved in that if I remember correctly... Syma is now at WXYZ and I think Randy still does traffic at WWJ-AM...

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1 hour ago, ns8401 said:

It’s most likely just a political ad ploy... it’s unlikely they’ll start any kind of news department at all...

Florida (29 EVs), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) can be in play this cycle as these states can very well decide the election.

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1 hour ago, ns8401 said:

Ah Randy Bhirdo and Syma Chowdrey were involved in that if I remember correctly... Syma is now at WXYZ and I think Randy still does traffic at WWJ-AM...

 

First Forecast Mornings.

 

 

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On 1/19/2020 at 2:05 PM, ns8401 said:

It’s most likely just a political ad ploy... it’s unlikely they’ll start any kind of news department at all...

I'm kind of thinking that too.  Even FTVLive reported that this stunt CBS has opted for is a "money grab".  WCBS 2 NYC producing WUPA 69 Atlanta newscast, KTVT 11 DFW producing WKBD 50 Detroit newscast, and WFOR 4 Miami producing WTOG 44 Tampa Bay newscast.

(1) Better scenario would've been having a competing station produce newscasts.  Atlanta, having WSB 2 do WUPA newscast.  Tampa Bay having WTSP 10 or WFTS 28 do WTOG newscast.  Detroit, having WDIV 4 do WKBD newscast, if WWJ 62 relaunching news department isn't on CBS' agenda.

(2) Another thing worth pointing out, CBS may not be exactly alone.  Scripps is looking to start a WSFL 39 Miami newscast this year.  And I'm kind of thinking that too is another money grab.  It'll be interesting to see whether WSFL newscast will be produced by WPTV 5 WPB or WFTS 28 Tampa Bay.

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3 hours ago, atlnewsfan03 said:

I'm kind of thinking that too.  Even FTVLive reported that this stunt CBS has opted for is a "money grab".  WCBS 2 NYC producing WUPA 69 Atlanta newscast, KTVT 11 DFW producing WKBD 50 Detroit newscast, and WFOR 4 Miami producing WTOG 44 Tampa Bay newscast.

(1) Better scenario would've been having a competing station produce newscasts.  Atlanta, having WSB 2 do WUPA newscast.  Tampa Bay having WTSP 10 or WFTS 28 do WTOG newscast.  Detroit, having WDIV 4 do WKBD newscast, if WWJ 62 relaunching news department isn't on CBS' agenda.

Why would that be a better scenario for CBS? I'm sure using existing resources at the O&Os is cheaper for CBS than outsourcing the newscasts to competing stations in the markets. Outsourcing would also help promote the rival stations. Since this is likely just a quick cash grab for political ad revenue, the best scenario for CBS is the one that costs the company the least. Which is likely what they're doing.

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5 hours ago, atlnewsfan03 said:

(2) Another thing worth pointing out, CBS may not be exactly alone.  Scripps is looking to start a WSFL 39 Miami newscast this year.  And I'm kind of thinking that too is another money grab.  It'll be interesting to see whether WSFL newscast will be produced by WPTV 5 WPB or WFTS 28 Tampa Bay.

 

The WSFL newscasts will be produced in-house. Scripps is already building a team for the new news operation.

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On 1/19/2020 at 3:39 PM, JCB4TV said:

Florida (29 EVs), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) can be in play this cycle as these states can very well decide the election.

Yes and come say December 1st you can give yourself an “I was there to watch the short lived newscast CBS mainly outsourced” pin because most likely it’ll be gone by then. Georgia isn’t looking too in play yet (saw some polls last week that had Trumps smallest lead at 7 I think over Biden there) but Michigan and Florida are. 
 

Is CBS the only O&O operator with such a patchwork of news departments?

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This is getting silly.

 

WADL is launching a new half-hour 10pm news program entitled News Now with Kevin Dietz, hosted by former WDIV reporter Kevin Dietz.  

 

But this will not be your typical news program. As explained by station owner Kevin Adell:

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WADL CEO Kevin Adell said the newscast will play to Dietz’s investigative strengths. It will typically feature two long reports, and will not focus on house fires and burglaries. It will be produced at WADL. “It’s definitely local--what’s going on at the water cooler,” said Adell, who told Detroit Free Press Dietz will fight for the underdog.

The program premieres tonight, one day before WKBD's new 10pm show (produced out of Fort Worth, TX) premieres.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, CircleSeven said:

This is getting silly.

 

WADL is launching a new half-hour 10pm news program entitled News Now with Kevin Dietz, hosted by former WDIV reporter Kevin Dietz.  

 

But this will not be your typical news program. As explained by station owner Kevin Adell:

The program premieres tonight, one day before WKBD's new 10pm show (produced out of Fort Worth, TX) premieres.

 

 

It has a public access quality from what I understand... yikes...

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17 minutes ago, 24994J said:

Lawd it makes NY's chasing news a 'pro' in production by comparison + even then it says a lot. Looks like it's filmed at some mancave basement, used for podcast rather for some conspiracy theory/right wing talk or some ish. I mean i see small WJR logo placed there. If he wanted to present it as just some radio talk show, it's plausible to go that route but still....Production qualities for some real public access types have advanced since.   

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13 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

The Live Well Network name is finally going away, years after ending national distribution and mainly being a repeat-focused lifestyle network.

 

Instead, it'll become ABC's Local-ish starting February 17th.

 

https://tvnewscheck.com/article/top-news/243676/abc-oos-localish-expands-with-diginet-rebranding/

Soon to follow:

News-ish

Truth-ish

Worth Watching-ish

Fish-ish

Boring-ish

And introducing: Ish-ish

 

I think ABC’s motto must be “an ish in every home and 2 ish’s in every pot!”...

 

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6 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

The Live Well Network name is finally going away, years after ending national distribution and mainly being a repeat-focused lifestyle network.

 

Instead, it'll become ABC's Local-ish starting February 17th.

 

https://tvnewscheck.com/article/top-news/243676/abc-oos-localish-expands-with-diginet-rebranding/

Certain shows listed (More In Common, Bite Size) are already airing on LWN right now.

 

This will be in direct competition with NBC's LX diginet launching on their O&Os later this year.

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14 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

The Live Well Network name is finally going away, years after ending national distribution and mainly being a repeat-focused lifestyle network.

 

Instead, it'll become ABC's Local-ish starting February 17th.

 

https://tvnewscheck.com/article/top-news/243676/abc-oos-localish-expands-with-diginet-rebranding/

 

I mean, this move actually makes sense.

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5 minutes ago, ns8401 said:

 

I think ABC’s motto must be “an ish in every home and and 2 ish’s in every pot!”...

 

That pales in comparison to the A&P grocery chain's famous motto of yesteryear (no joke), "We watch our P's & Q's!"  (Now that's a motto a certain Scripps-owned station in the Big Apple could adopt LOL...) 😁 

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