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12 hours ago, AJClementeFan69 said:

 

Both could use some serious work, really.

Exactly. KLKN needs serious work too (and hiring a new GM is a start, still got a long way to go though) but I think WLNE out of the 2 that are in the bigger need of work done to the station

 

Going back to KLKN though, I don't think it would matter what Standard does with KLKN because isn't KOLN a 100-lb gorilla in Lincoln? If so then Standard for sure has their work cut out in Lincoln

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1 hour ago, oknewsguy said:

Exactly. KLKN needs serious work too (and hiring a new GM is a start, still got a long way to go though) but I think WLNE out of the 2 that are in the bigger need of work done to the station

 

Going back to KLKN though, I don't think it would matter what Standard does with KLKN because isn't KOLN a 100-lb gorilla in Lincoln? If so then Standard for sure has their work cut out in Lincoln

 

KOLN and Gray Television are the 100-lb gorillas in Lincoln. It's not just KOLN in the market that Gray has, but seems like a gazillion stations in that area they own, including KSNB, KCWH and god what else they got.

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Gray's whole strategy is to buy up the massive gorilla stations, so.

 

Though I've heard that Gray doesn't really build market leaders from within anymore, like they apparently used to?

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3 hours ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

KOLN and Gray Television are the 100-lb gorillas in Lincoln. It's not just KOLN in the market that Gray has, but seems like a gazillion stations in that area they own, including KSNB, KCWH and god what else they got.

Back in the '70s, KOLN's 10p news had the highest market share of any CBS affil in the nation. KLKN has taken a little dent, but it should be interesting with Deb Mcdermott's (former KOLN PD) company.

KSNB is owned by Gray but has a completely different newscast, focusing on Kearney-Hastings-Grand Island.

If you're referring to KWCH, that's Wichita, a fur piece (as we say in Kansas) away.

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10 minutes ago, KS-IL-IA said:

Back in the '70s, KOLN's 10p news had the highest market share of any CBS affil in the nation. KLKN has taken a little dent, but it should be interesting with Deb Mcdermott's (former KOLN PD) company.

KSNB is owned by Gray but has a completely different newscast, focusing on Kearney-Hastings-Grand Island.

If you're referring to KWCH, that's Wichita, a fur piece (as we say in Kansas) away.

 

No. He meant the new LP they lit up last year. KCWH-LD, The CW affiliate in Lincoln (repeated on KNHL (formerly KHAS) 5.3). Gray has that Cornhusker state locked from Omaha to Scottsbluff.

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12 hours ago, TriangleTriadMediaNews said:

I figured this would happen, WTVR will launch a 4pm newscast in September to replace Steve Harvey.  This newscast will compete against WWBT's longtime 4pm newscast, which recently expanded to an hour earlier this year.

https://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2019/8/9/adding-more-news-in-richmond

 

4pm news for WTVR? WHAT?!! Wasn't expecting that news!

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9 hours ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

KOLN and Gray Television are the 100-lb gorillas in Lincoln. It's not just KOLN in the market that Gray has, but seems like a gazillion stations in that area they own, including KSNB, KCWH and god what else they got.

I think out of the 2 markets that Standard got from Citadel I think they will have a MUCH easier time in Providence than they will in Lincoln

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8 hours ago, channel2 said:

Gray's whole strategy is to buy up the massive gorilla stations, so.

 

Though I've heard that Gray doesn't really build market leaders from within anymore, like they apparently used to?

 

Yeah, and then completely strip them to the bone. (WDBJ, WCAX, KYTV, etc.)

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13 hours ago, AJClementeFan69 said:

 

Yeah, and then completely strip them to the bone. (WDBJ, WCAX, KYTV, etc.)

 

And yet, those three stations you've mentioned as examples are still #1 in their markets and by longshots too.

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8 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

And yet, those three stations you've mentioned as examples are still #1 in their markets and by longshots too.

Even WSAZ has been #1 for many years.  Under Lee Enterprise, Emmis and Gray.

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25 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

And yet, those three stations you've mentioned as examples are still #1 in their markets and by longshots too.

And that is also despite the fact that Gray shuttered and merged KSPR's news department into KYTV's

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38 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

 

And yet, those three stations you've mentioned as examples are still #1 in their markets and by longshots too.

Viewer loyalty isn't easy to break. Most of the bloodbaths happened behind the scenes, and viewers are a lot less likely to notice if the anchors remain the same and most viewers aren't going to really notice lower-quality MMJ content. It's just a shame how Gray operates, that's all.

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In terms of the race at 4:00 p.m. in DFW, between KXAS, WFAA and KTVT, the winner is... NEITHER.

 

Instead, it goes to KXTX. Winners in July REGARDLESS OF LANGUAGE. Another Telemundo station taking another win.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said:

In terms of the race at 4:00 p.m. in DFW, between KXAS, WFAA and KTVT, the winner is... NEITHER.

 

Instead, it goes to KXTX. Winners in July REGARDLESS OF LANGUAGE. Another Telemundo station taking another win.

 

 

That's just like peoiple would rather watch the World Cup in Spanish than in English, same thing here in this case 

 

I guess people don't like KTVT, WFAA, and KXAS so much they'd rather watch Telemundo for news at 4pm

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1 minute ago, oknewsguy said:

That's just like peoiple would rather watch the World Cup in Spanish than in English, same thing here in this case 

 

I guess people don't like KTVT, WFAA, and KXAS so much they'd rather watch Telemundo for news at 4pm

 

Probably a mix of there being only two Spanish news-producing stations versus four (less ratings dilution) and perhaps more Spanish-speakers watching TV news than anglophones.

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6 hours ago, oknewsguy said:

That's just like peoiple would rather watch the World Cup in Spanish than in English, same thing here in this case 

 

I guess people don't like KTVT, WFAA, and KXAS so much they'd rather watch Telemundo for news at 4pm

 

Your analogy of World Cup soccer and TV news makes zero sense. Telemundo 39 is  #1 in Dallas because of the growing Hispanic population. It's the same here in LA, KVEA is usually at the top of the heap due to demographics. When you watch soccer in Spanish, you get the gist of the game just by watching the action on the field. That comparison does not happen with TV news. You need context and you need to be able to understand the language to get the true background on what is being reported.

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3 hours ago, FiveNews said:

 

Your analogy of World Cup soccer and TV news makes zero sense. Telemundo 39 is  #1 in Dallas because of the growing Hispanic population. It's the same here in LA, KVEA is usually at the top of the heap due to demographics. When you watch soccer in Spanish, you get the gist of the game just by watching the action on the field. That comparison does not happen with TV news. You need context and you need to be able to understand the language to get the true background on what is being reported.

Yes you do because in Soccer if you watch the match in Spanish, you need context and understanding of how they use terms in Spanish and be able to translate it into English, it's just like watching TV News in Spanish so therefore it does make sense

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1 hour ago, oknewsguy said:

Yes you do because in Soccer if you watch the match in Spanish, you need context and understanding of how they use terms in Spanish and be able to translate it into English, it's just like watching TV News in Spanish so therefore it does make sense

Or none of the explanations or comparisons bandied about here has any basis in reality. You guys are treating apples and avocados as a fair comparison thus letting some idiot in Spanish language marketing pull a fast one on you... this topic repeatedly gets serious attention around here as if it’s really an oh wow truth for god knows what reason...

 

One audience (English only) doesn’t have a choice and another does (bi-lingual) and still another can only speak Spanish... regardless of language is a terrible statistic to bandy about and it makes the Spanish language stations look better than they are. The English language stations are at a significant disadvantage in this game. Many of the bi-lingual have English as a second language... if I started off with Spanish and learned broken English and had a choice I would go with what I knew the best and could completely comprehend... so many of these folks are joining the bandwagon out of necessity. 

 

What good does this stat do for someone who only speaks English? I could watch Telemundo I guess... a majority are evidently... but I’d be watching people appear to me to be uncontrollably babbling... what good is a measurement of success that has a limited reach?

 

It’s similar to what WABC does with “most watched in America”... by households sure but in the market with the most households... not a hard feat for whoever is number one. However by share it could be a station in Fargo that could claim it or in Fairbanks... one could make a compelling argument that share is a more important number...

 

Three kinds of lies...

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It's very different when it's a sporting event versus a newscast. A sporting event can still be somewhat understandable in another language. A newscast, not so much.

 

But putting down Spanish-language television stations who are doing just as much work for their communities in news and public service is being discriminatory to what they do simply because it's not in a language you understand.

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58 minutes ago, Samantha said:

But putting down Spanish-language television stations who are doing just as much work for their communities in news and public service is being discriminatory to what they do simply because it's not in a language you understand.

What makes you think I was putting down Telemundo? Nowhere in my post was I putting down Telemundo or Univision it's good for them that they're winning my issue was what made people in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex perfer to watch a 4pm newscast in Spanish than in English? What did the 4 major DFW Engloish language stations do wrong that propelled Telelmundo to 1st place?

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2 hours ago, oknewsguy said:

What makes you think I was putting down Telemundo? Nowhere in my post was I putting down Telemundo or Univision it's good for them that they're winning my issue was what made people in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex perfer to watch a 4pm newscast in Spanish than in English? What did the 4 major DFW Engloish language stations do wrong that propelled Telelmundo to 1st place?

 

The 4 English stations didn't do anything wrong. Telemundo's #1 status just shows that the demographics in DFW and other markets are shifting. Hispanics are the dominant demographic and it is showing in markets across the country....Miami, NYC, LA, Houston, Dallas, etc etc.

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7 hours ago, Samantha said:

It's very different when it's a sporting event versus a newscast. A sporting event can still be somewhat understandable in another language. A newscast, not so much.

 

But putting down Spanish-language television stations who are doing just as much work for their communities in news and public service is being discriminatory to what they do simply because it's not in a language you understand.

Who said anybody didn’t do good for the community? I’m simply saying the comparison is a little shady and ham-fisted and is bent to make their results look better. You think the folks in a PR department have Walter Kronkite level honesty or something? All It demonstrates is that the demos are shifting... that’s not an accomplishment by anybody... it’s a byproduct of a change in viewer composition... then it gets played off as if they 100% worked for it against all of the other stations and that nothing changed external to their efforts...

 

As for being in a language I don’t understand and being discriminatory or whatever you are trying to accuse me of that has nothing to do with it. Don’t bring that kind of crap into the discussion. I’m not here for that kind of “you’re a racist” garbage. You don’t like my criticism that’s fine and we can talk about it. Don’t you dare try to win an argument by putting words in my mouth.

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