Eat News 4738 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Anyword where the live backdrop is located. Looks like it's from Top of the Rock? I know NBC doesn't control the roof but you would think they'd have the exclusive rights to use it. I'm sure other stations would like a camera there as it shows all the major NYC landmarks. But it's always better to make cash money off your competition right? You don't see CBS keeping other stations from using "Eyewitness News" do you? Heck yes...license that stuff out...make the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyz 26 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well, the background image is the same as Chris' goodbye post. To be honest, the rear monitor projections has always been a still image, not a live image. Not to mention the morning show seems to always use the same sunset photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1487 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Living in LA, I don't love the KCBS set. KABC and KNBC's set are better... but I hope WCBS made some changes to their version of the KCBS set. I hope they didn't add the on set green room and the interview set with the old WCBS artifacts. I agree to some extent. It's not a bad set by any means, but it does feel a little boring in that the shots used for 90% of the newscast show nothing more than the monitor wall. It's not a whole lot more than those monitor walls at sharp angles, and it ends up feeling a little flat. The idea of emulating the CTM set with station memorabilia is a cool one, but I don't think it's executed as well as it could be. The whole point of the CTM set is that 1) it's all real, and 2) there's no couch. I don't think I've ever seen them use the green room area, which is obviously nothing more than two sheets of glass with no ceiling over it, so it looks fake and pointless from the get-go. What's also strange is that KCBS' morning show is very loose and "wacky," and it ends the last block at 6:59 with four anchors yucking it up about the kicker on a couch before tossing to CTM, a show that is the antithesis of that format by design. I don't know what the ratings look like for LA morning shows, but if they're struggling, I can see why. The best O&O set is still WBZ's. Yes, it has a big monitor wall, but it's broken up with a bunch of other interesting elements. Their new desk is odd, but the rest of it all looks great pre- and post- refresh. The WBZ set with the KCBS/KOVR/WFOR/WBBM/WCBS desk would be nearly perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1675 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Looks decent, but it's a shame they're going from a seamless projection backdrop to a monitor array. Seamless projection takes up a lot of space in the back. there are issues with alignment when a bulb is changed and lower resolution for a similar amount of space. A monitor array requires less space and you get more resolution. I wouldn't be surprised if their old projection screen behind home base was just one projector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 134 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Seamless projection takes up a lot of space in the back. there are issues with alignment when a bulb is changed and lower resolution for a similar amount of space. A monitor array requires less space and you get more resolution. I wouldn't be surprised if their old projection screen behind home base was just one projector. Right, but LED broadcast displays have greatly decreased in cost and increased in quality over the past few years, so that would have been a more future proof option. Case in point, WABC's arrays are misaligned and miscalibrated, and look pretty terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1675 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Right, but LED broadcast displays have greatly decreased in cost and increased in quality over the past few years, so that would have been a more future proof option. Case in point, WABC's arrays are misaligned and miscalibrated, and look pretty terrible. One thing designers don't take into account is that they expand and contract which can cause misalignment. There are some that can auto calibrate themselves if they're connected together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webovision 202 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 One thing designers don't take into account is that they expand and contract which can cause misalignment. There are some that can auto calibrate themselves if they're connected together. they DO account for it... every news set with monitor walls i've been on has had 2-3mm gaps between all the screens to account for expansion and gives clearance to remove part of the array if one dies... which happens a LOT more often than you might think... most of these stations have one or two screens on standby for when one inevitably dies... the backs are taped off with gaffers tape to keep light from leaking between them... projection screens take up a lot of room and kick off a lot of heat and noise... and they're a pain in the a$$ to set up... these aren't your classroom projectors we're talking about here, these things can be 90+ lbs and several feet wide... with swappable lenses that can be nudged on accident... not careful changing the bulb and you can knock the whole thing out of alignment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1675 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 they DO account for it... every news set with monitor walls i've been on has had 2-3mm gaps between all the screens to account for expansion and gives clearance to remove part of the array if one dies... which happens a LOT more often than you might think... most of these stations have one or two screens on standby for when one inevitably dies... the backs are taped off with gaffers tape to keep light from leaking between them... projection screens take up a lot of room and kick off a lot of heat and noise... and they're a pain in the a$$ to set up... these aren't your classroom projectors we're talking about here, these things can be 90+ lbs and several feet wide... with swappable lenses that can be nudged on accident... not careful changing the bulb and you can knock the whole thing out of alignment... Sorry I based it on a NewscastStudio article. Trying to find right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 134 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Edit: The tweet was taken down, here's a screenshot: [MEDIA=imgur]a/XiYKp[/MEDIA] I do like that there's more color than KCBS's set. Looks like the left display doesn't have joins in it, FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Kissel 280 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I agree to some extent. It's not a bad set by any means, but it does feel a little boring in that the shots used for 90% of the newscast show nothing more than the monitor wall. It's not a whole lot more than those monitor walls at sharp angles, and it ends up feeling a little flat. The idea of emulating the CTM set with station memorabilia is a cool one, but I don't think it's executed as well as it could be. The whole point of the CTM set is that 1) it's all real, and 2) there's no couch. I don't think I've ever seen them use the green room area, which is obviously nothing more than two sheets of glass with no ceiling over it, so it looks fake and pointless from the get-go. What's also strange is that KCBS' morning show is very loose and "wacky," and it ends the last block at 6:59 with four anchors yucking it up about the kicker on a couch before tossing to CTM, a show that is the antithesis of that format by design. I don't know what the ratings look like for LA morning shows, but if they're struggling, I can see why. The best O&O set is still WBZ's. Yes, it has a big monitor wall, but it's broken up with a bunch of other interesting elements. Their new desk is odd, but the rest of it all looks great pre- and post- refresh. The WBZ set with the KCBS/KOVR/WFOR/WBBM/WCBS desk would be nearly perfect. WBZ is the Best CBS O&O set? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm Surprised CBS hasn't Copied the KDKA-TV News Set for the Rest of its CBS O&Os. That Set is Truely the best of all the CBS O&O stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinH 43 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Anyone know when they'll start using it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5269 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The Emmys are Sunday night. I'll put $100 on it...because none of you know where to go to collect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1944 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The Emmys are Sunday night. I'll put $100 on it...because none of you know where to go to collect. I remember the last time CBS had the primetime Emmys (2013), WCBS and KYW debuted their new graphics and Enforcer NG4 simultaneously. Could it happen again with a WCBS-WBBM simultaneous set launch on Sunday Night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFTV 484 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I remember the last time CBS had the primetime Emmys (2013), WCBS and KYW debuted their new graphics and Enforcer NG4 simultaneously. Could it happen again with a WCBS-WBBM simultaneous set launch on Sunday Night? Are all O&O's not doing the time/temp now for the 11pm? I've noticed KCBS and KPIX aren't using it. It looks so naked without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbsnewsmanila 1 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Looks like it's gonna debut today [MEDIA=instagram]BZBDUG2la-y[/MEDIA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Debuting today at noon as per Chris Wragee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Kissel 280 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Are all O&O's not doing the time/temp now for the 11pm? I've noticed KCBS and KPIX aren't using it. It looks so naked without it. So does KDKA as well. [GALLERY=media, 1027]Kdka 1 by Kenneth Kissel posted Sep 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM[/GALLERY][GALLERY=media, 1028]Kdka 2 by Kenneth Kissel posted Sep 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM[/GALLERY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5269 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I know WBBM still uses it on the late news, and WCBS does, too, last I checked. As for the set, I only saw the very beginning of the newscast, but the angle and (other camera terms) used seemed to make the set look small. Maybe that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1843 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Before I left, WFOR didn't have theirs at 11:00 p.m. With the new 7:00 p.m. news, its probably there but maybe not at 11:00 p.m. It was the only station to not include a time/temp bug on its late news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Kissel 280 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Here is the Link to the WCBS set debut. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/09/14/check-out-cbs2s-new-set-with-this-timelapse-video/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMA 134 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Definitely the best set in the market, WNBC's looks like a cheap downgrade of their old set and WABC's is just super grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshow 163 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Looks pretty good. Can't wait to see what they can do with the monitors. They're a lot more monitors than the other CBS O&O versions of this set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 While I do like that they use the back drop for OTS graphics I do wish it was a live feed instead of the same skyline pictures as their old set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshow 163 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I just watched some Instasnaps of the new set and the studio now looks smaller. Maybe they're using the other half of the studio as 'Studio 55'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1805 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I just watched some Instasnaps of the new set and the studio now looks smaller. Maybe they're using the other half of the studio as 'Studio 55'? 46 and 55 are two completely separate studios. The old set was positioned differently and it took advantage of the length of the studio (desk was opposite the door), the new one uses the width because it's such a wide set (the door is to camera right) The CBS Broadcast Center site doesn't list dimensions but it's probably around 3500sqft, which is bigger than NBC's 3K. 46 is just rectangular which will make it look small when shot towards the long wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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