swillh2k2 203 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 WCIV will be making the switch tomorrow at 5made the switch Monday morning--with ahead of the debut of a brand-new 5pm newscast... https://www.facebook.com/abcnews4?_rdr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2876 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I guess in the digital realm, the PAL frame rate (25) would be about the same as a 24fps (23.997) frame rate, giving it more of a film-like look. This is because of the electrical system running at 50HZ in PAL countries instead of our 60HZ. I hate to nitpick here, but I think it's worth noting that countries can have PAL at 60Hz or NTSC at 50Hz. Chile has the latter, while Brazil has the former. Both are going to the ISDB-T standard that will be extremely common in most of Latin America. Also, TV compatibility with 60Hz refresh rates in Europe is very high (especially for things like video games), and DVB I believe allows for 60fps for quite a bit of content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagonal10 84 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I hate to nitpick here, but I think it's worth noting that countries can have PAL at 60Hz or NTSC at 50Hz. Chile has the latter, while Brazil has the former. Both are going to the ISDB-T standard that will be extremely common in most of Latin America. Also, TV compatibility with 60Hz refresh rates in Europe is very high (especially for things like video games), and DVB I believe allows for 60fps for quite a bit of content. I notice how sports on tv and their graphics are so much smoother compared to the news graphics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSC1980 96 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 KSNV has a new logo. Looks like WKYC. Http://Facebook.com/News3lasvegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 1843 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 KSNV has a new logo. Looks like WKYC. Http://Facebook.com/News3lasvegas Awful. Terrible. Ugly. Congrats to Sinclair for ruining yet, another great station logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1295 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 KSNV has a new logo. Looks like WKYC. Http://Facebook.com/News3lasvegas Looks like a cheap WKYC knockoff. Why does Sinclair feel the need to unnecessarily change the logos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexTVandRadio 412 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I like the old KSNV logo better there. Will WKRC ever take the new look? Wonder if they will keep the "Local" in the name? I think WDKY will change their logo, but just colors to make it match WZTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveKendall 29 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 KTVO (ABC) in Kirksville, Mo. and WWMT (CBS) in Kalamazoo both used logos in the late '80s thru the mid-'90s that were very similar to the former KSNV logo. While I agree that the new KSNV logo is generic, I never was a big fan of the old KSNV logo, as I thought the bottom part of the "3" was oversized. The former KTVO and WWMT "3"s were a little more proportionate. http://www.heartlandconnection.com/about/about.aspx?id=45429 http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/WWMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Looks like a cheap WKYC knockoff. Why does Sinclair feel the need to unnecessarily change the logos? ICK!!!!! HOLY CRAP THAT IS AWFUL!!! It looks like they used Glass and not Curves. http://www.news3lv.com/content/video/default.aspx?videoId=5723760&navCatId=25504 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1295 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Off-topic but why is the KSNV bug on newscasts as tall as Sinclair stations with the station bug and Time/Temp bug combined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3442 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 At least it's not hideous, but i miss the old "3" already. This is beginning to be a trend for them. KGAN, KDBC and now KSNV have redesigned their logos in a simiar fashion. It makes me wonder how much longer stations like WEAR are going to keep their logo. At least these newer logos aren't abominations like the ones launched on WNWO and WXLV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewsMaster 226 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Off-topic but why is the KSNV bug on newscasts as tall as Sinclair stations with the station bug and Time/Temp bug combined? I don't know. KDBC does it as well AFAIK. (The font used for 'NEWS' in KDBC's logo is the same as KSNV, that may be why I'm saying that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 737 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Wow...that really cheap looking even by KSNV standards. They haven't had the best track record with logos and I really wonder what they'll do with KOMO and KATUs logos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveKendall 29 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 At least it's not hideous, but i miss the old "3" already. This is beginning to be a trend for them. KGAN, KDBC and now KSNV have redesigned their logos in a simiar fashion. It makes me wonder how much longer stations like WEAR are going to keep their logo. At least these newer logos aren't abominations like the ones launched on WNWO and WXLV. KDBC's new logo isn't bad...it's actually a huge improvement over what they had. On the other hand, KGAN's new logo is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike91 66 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Honestly, none of these logos are that bad. They are boring and cookie cutter for sure, but they are clean. I know nothing about graphic design, so forgive me if this sounds dumb, but I feel like maybe it was easier (cough cough cheaper) to just make a new logo (that took 15 minutes TOPS to make) than to recreate the old more complicated logo in the new graphics package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3442 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Honestly, none of these logos are that bad. They are boring and cookie cutter for sure, but they are clean. I know nothing about graphic design, so forgive me if this sounds dumb, but I feel like maybe it was easier (cough cough cheaper) to just make a new logo (that took 15 minutes TOPS to make) than to recreate the old more complicated logo in the new graphics package. Well after tripling the size of the company over the last three years, this makes perfect sense especially when $$$$ comes into play. Although this is taking standardization to another level as even the LOGOS are being changed. Other groups have either launched graphics while not touching the logo or made minor cosmetic changes to it to make it go along with the particular "look". ...and it may just be a matter of opinion, plain and simple. When you do 180s on stations like KSNV and WJLA, you have a unique "3" and a Circle 7. Had WJLA had their older "circle 7", they may have gotten an upgrade in their look... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike91 66 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 WCIV's new AM open and 5pm open. Interesting that they are using a talent open for the show open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3442 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 WCIV's new AM open and 5pm open. Interesting that they are using a talent open for the show open. They also tweaked the logo (the "4" isn't curved like the old one) WTVC in Chattanooga also puts their talent in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 742 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It makes me wonder how much longer stations like WEAR are going to keep their logo. I don't see that happening anytime soon. The day they retire the bird in the 3 logo (which has been a fixture for who knows how long) will be a sad day in the Mobile/Pensacola market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2876 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well after tripling the size of the company over the last three years, this makes perfect sense especially when $$$$ comes into play. Although this is taking standardization to another level as even the LOGOS are being changed. Other groups have either launched graphics while not touching the logo or made minor cosmetic changes to it to make it go along with the particular "look". ...and it may just be a matter of opinion, plain and simple. When you do 180s on stations like KSNV and WJLA, you have a unique "3" and a Circle 7. Had WJLA had their older "circle 7", they may have gotten an upgrade in their look... It could also have been a perception that the logo was outdated. I bet you most owners would have changed the logo after buying the station from IWCC. Not that a flat-top 3 can't look good (I just did a KSNV logo mock that I think is an appropriate update) but I am unfortunately not a TV design consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtraveler01 737 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They also tweaked the logo (the "4" isn't curved like the old one) WTVC in Chattanooga also puts their talent in the open. I knew something looked off about that "4". Thanks for helping me out with that because it was driving me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1675 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Off-topic but why is the KSNV bug on newscasts as tall as Sinclair stations with the station bug and Time/Temp bug combined? I think it had to do with the size and layout of the logo. This updated logo is more square/vertical than a horizontal logo where they probably couldn't scale it down with out making it illegible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3442 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 By now, WEAR's logo has fallen into the "If it ain't broke..." category, seeing as how it's kept it's basic form for almost 30 years, and remains largely unchanged since the late 1990s other than shading, coloring and the evolution of ABC's logo. But you have to wonder once WEAR (and WPMI) get the new look if there's going to be some tweaks in the branding....maybe WPMI will be the victim by droping the "Local 15" brand and going back to "NBC 15". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexTVandRadio 412 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 In the early 2000's I thought WEAR was channel 13. Will be interesting to see what they do with it. How many stations are left for the change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3442 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 In the early 2000's I thought WEAR was channel 13. Will be interesting to see what they do with it. How many stations are left for the change? There's also WMBB over in Panama City which had a similar bird-like logo from the early 80s until 1995 or so... Aside from WEAR and WLOS, there's a lot of acquisitions that are still status quo, but it may be several years before everyone gets upgraded....if they get upgraded. Seeing as how quickly they moved on WJLA, its a certainty, but it may be much longer on the smaller stations or stations like KOMO which remains status quo, and KATU, which has only adopted the music so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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