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Discovered composers & publishers of music themes

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46 minutes ago, Samantha said:

Very nice snag @promoguy98!

 

I actually nailed a trio of interesting finds lately that are somewhat in the NMSA, but I wanted to put them here too:

 

Shreveport

 

The Shreveport Journal in 1984 did an article on news music and it included IDs for three different pieces of news music!

 

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/59728001/

 

KSLA's theme is a custom by Jake Pittman of Dallas. (He died at 50 in 2004.)

 

KTBS is also a custom done by Skeetz Music Co. of Indianapolis. The NMSA has yet to add this one because it actually represents a date change for KTBS '82. The mention of not having a final beat is a glove fit for this.

 

KTAL used a theme by Al LeGrand (LeGrand and Associates, a local ad agency) and Dan Newman. We've never heard it, either!

 

KOVR/Dan Milner

 

Years ago, I ran on ASCAP into an entry for a KOVR News Theme by Dan Milner (Wintermoon Music) but had nothing to go on.

 

Until @Spectrum27 turned up its use as a background bed on American Gladiators:

 

 

Milner composed the theme to the show, too, and one of his demos has a few cuts from the KOVR '95 package in it. That's one way to ID a theme!

 

KCST - Working to Be Your 1st Choice

 

KCST 1985 (now correctly dated 1984) was not a package I expected to have an image associated. Well, I was very wrong!

 

 

Wanted to bring this to the attention of the music hounds. Tuesday? Silvertree (which was formed at the start of '84)?

The KCST tune sounds similar to this from WOI:

 

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Anyone that might know who composed this open for WLII that was used from 199-2002?

 

 

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I came up with the composer of the KUTV 1979 news theme. It was Peters Productions and you can go to https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ10FpXZvpW4utLhTHSO1S34fpMSJpuznd6y&fbclid=IwAR0t088Cf65HT_H4t0uzeB6iXGP99fC-dUJp01IZJHgv5x6XW-LxVq87PJg to listen to the entire package. And I identified the composer, because of the news theme they play at 3:50.

And that's not all, if you go to https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72JpXZ2LzrBscemU4NL9plQHE9gSKfQcxV&fbclid=IwAR1a1fUAvrtkSMT6_lJeA0NDpjJi8lwjp6Tkw2troPtRlfbkE4VZx3pkgv8, at the beginning, you'll hear WNGE's 1979 news theme that was composed by, you guessed it, Peters Productions.

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I found out who composed WNGE's 1979 news theme using the link, https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72JpXZ2LzrBscemU4NL9plQHE9gSKfQcxV&fbclid=IwAR1a1fUAvrtkSMT6_lJeA0NDpjJi8lwjp6Tkw2troPtRlfbkE4VZx3pkgv8
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11 hours ago, KnoxvilleTVFan said:

I came up with the composer of the KUTV 1979 news theme. It was Peters Productions and you can go to https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ10FpXZvpW4utLhTHSO1S34fpMSJpuznd6y&fbclid=IwAR0t088Cf65HT_H4t0uzeB6iXGP99fC-dUJp01IZJHgv5x6XW-LxVq87PJg to listen to the entire package. And I identified the composer, because of the news theme they play at 3:50.

And that's not all, if you go to https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72JpXZ2LzrBscemU4NL9plQHE9gSKfQcxV&fbclid=IwAR1a1fUAvrtkSMT6_lJeA0NDpjJi8lwjp6Tkw2troPtRlfbkE4VZx3pkgv8, at the beginning, you'll hear WNGE's 1979 news theme that was composed by, you guessed it, Peters Productions.

In addition, at 4:34 in that second clip (Peters Productions Video Sound Track) is the primary Image theme/promo for WJKW/Cleveland "TV8-The Winners"

 

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On 6/7/2017 at 4:50 AM, bixpchiphead said:

 

In the case of 'JBK, at least from the late '70's til the early 80's, the station collaborated w/ Peters on their image campaigns, ie, JBK's promo/ CS came up with the overarching theme of the campaign, Peters did the heavy lifting (writing the music) not unlike getting a custom made suit versus one off the rack. Sometimes it worked (2 Together), other times (the steaming pile of "TV2 is Yours" or the ineffective "Two is the One"), not so much... As for other Storer stations and Peters, I suspect 'The Winners' was specially made for 'JKW, then tweaked for 'TVG.

 

And I think that WNGE Nashville's "A new Beat" may well be Peters as well, based on the "hump 2' that 'JBK used during the 'is yours' campaign

 

Gosh darn, @bixpchiphead you nailed it in 2017.

 

The soundtrack is a treat: KCST "39 Alive", KNTV "A New Vision", KTWO "2, The Free Spirit", KUTV "2 Together", KLAS "This is 8", and radio for WVON Chicago and jingles for Central Bank...

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On 10/17/2020 at 10:31 AM, KnoxvilleTVFan said:

I came up with the composer of the KUTV 1979 news theme. It was Peters Productions and you can go to https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ10FpXZvpW4utLhTHSO1S34fpMSJpuznd6y&fbclid=IwAR0t088Cf65HT_H4t0uzeB6iXGP99fC-dUJp01IZJHgv5x6XW-LxVq87PJg to listen to the entire package. And I identified the composer, because of the news theme they play at 3:50.

And that's not all, if you go to https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ72JpXZ2LzrBscemU4NL9plQHE9gSKfQcxV&fbclid=IwAR1a1fUAvrtkSMT6_lJeA0NDpjJi8lwjp6Tkw2troPtRlfbkE4VZx3pkgv8, at the beginning, you'll hear WNGE's 1979 news theme that was composed by, you guessed it, Peters Productions.

 

16 hours ago, Samantha said:

The soundtrack is a treat: KCST "39 Alive", KNTV "A New Vision", KTWO "2, The Free Spirit", KUTV "2 Together", KLAS "This is 8", and radio for WVON Chicago and jingles for Central Bank...

 

This soundtrack really IS a treat. Thank you for posting. The same people that did news theme music/promo packages for Gannett/Combined Communications stations like WXIA Atlanta, WLKY Louisville (now with Hearst), KOCO Oklahoma City (also with Hearst) and even here in Denver at KUSA (then KBTV). As far as that WJKW song TV8 The Winners is concerned, I got to hear the VOCAL version of the NewsCenter8 close (at 4:34 in the clip Peters Productions Video Sound Track). 

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The synth vamp in the long instrumental (close?) starting at 6:31 of the Video Sound Track sounds very familiar as well. I'm pretty sure there's a snippet of just the vamp at NMSA, though I my memory tells me it was a different pitch (perhaps the station ran it at a different speed?). When I find it, I will edit this post. If anyone can recall what station used it before I do, feel free to leave a reply.

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1 minute ago, Samantha said:

It's Beyond by Herb Alpert (KTVL ran it at another pitch).

 

Oh yeah, you're right. I forgot that it got ID'ed. I wonder what an extended chunk of it is doing on a Peters demo reel...

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1 hour ago, TServo2049 said:

 

Oh yeah, you're right. I forgot that it got ID'ed. I wonder what an extended chunk of it is doing on a Peters demo reel...

I suspect that it was used by Peters to show off several full service image packages that they had created,* not unlike what TvBD did in several packages, ie "Love on A real Train by Tangerine Dream..

 

*Remember this was the audio track of a video cassette tape...

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I also wonder that too. Anyway, this leads me to a question: Do you think that Peters Productions may have composed WTVD's 1979 news theme? I ask this question, because I am going to share a video that contains the entire WTVD newscast where they broadcasted from another room due to a fire on their news set.
 


You can listen to the closing theme at 28:36.

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7 hours ago, KnoxvilleTVFan said:

I also wonder that too. Anyway, this leads me to a question: Do you think that Peters Productions may have composed WTVD's 1979 news theme? I ask this question, because I am going to share a video that contains the entire WTVD newscast where they broadcasted from another room due to a fire on their news set.
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You can listen to the closing theme at 28:36.

Darn, if you don't know, I guess that means you don't have the video. Are you at liberty to say how you obtained these? (If you aren't comfortable saying publicly, but you are in PM, I did ask you there already.) I wonder if the source has the video copy, or just this audio.

 

As to WTVD 1979, I've been convinced that it's Peters for years. It has the "Together" slogan (which I believe Peters still had the trademark on at that time), it uses lettering very similar to the Combined-era "Alive" imaging on WXIA/KOCO/WLKY, and I thought Ed Peters told me over the phone years ago that he remembered WTVD being a client (but my memory could be wrong). And it sure sounds like Peters, especially the more we learn about what Peters sounded like.

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6 minutes ago, TServo2049 said:

Darn, if you don't know, I guess that means you don't have the video. Are you at liberty to say how you obtained these? (If you aren't comfortable saying publicly, but you are in PM, I did ask you there already.) I wonder if the source has the video copy, or just this audio.

 

As to WTVD 1979, I've been convinced that it's Peters for years. It has the "Together" slogan (which I believe Peters still had the trademark on at that time), it uses lettering very similar to the Combined-era "Alive" imaging on WXIA/KOCO/WLKY, and I thought Ed Peters told me over the phone years ago that he remembered WTVD being a client (but my memory could be wrong). And it sure sounds like Peters, especially the more we learn about what Peters sounded like.


TServo2049, I came across these links on a Facebook group called Radio Jingles and Airchecks which you can check out at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571170363164821/.

In fact, The link to the original post concerning the Peters Productions VIdeo Sound Track audio can be seen at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571170363164821/permalink/2793500540931791/ while the original post for the KUTV 2 Together Peters package can also be seen at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571170363164821/permalink/2793618074253371/

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Ah, I should have known it was a jingle collector (and one from the UK at that). I'm making an educated guess that he dubbed the audio to another tape back in the 80s, and that we won't get to see that video any time in the near future. Oh well.

 

Maybe someday I'll digitize the Calico demo containing animation for several Peters imaging IDs, but both my VCR and DVD recorder died. I should ask eyeontv from YT, my multi-gen dub traces back to him.

 

I've said this before either in this thread or another, but it included (among other, non-Peters campaigns) “K2, The Free Spirit”, “2 Belongs” for KHON, “13 Belongs” for what was then KSHO - and I still believe that KTNV 1981 was part of that image package - as well as the ID animation for “XETV, See the Difference“, which I am now starting to suspect *might* have been Peters too, based on the sound of the music/vocals in the off-air clips on YT (the demo set the montage of IDs to a piece of classical music, so I didn’t hear the actual accompanying jingle for years after). I am also wondering if Calico might have done the animations for “2, A New Beat” and WJBK’s “2 Together”, since they look very similar - even if a lot of backlit animation-stand photography looked similar regardless of who produced it (the only real way to know is to have a demo reel, or find a print ad in an old trade magazine like Millimeter).

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