New Fox Sports graphics (for real this time!)

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Scorebars for baseball don't really work. You really need them to take up as little screen space as possible since the ball could turn up in just about any portion of the screen at any time. Also with all the junk they're putting in on screen baseball scoreboards, a bar would get either cluttered or impossible to read quickly. Case and point FOX's 2006-2008 look that used a top bar for all the sports and the baseball version was cluttered as hell and it didn't even contain stuff like pitch counts yet.

 

Why in gods name do we need a constant pitch count? Or a "... Down" placeholder before the actual down and distance is known in football? It's too much...

[WCAUTVNBC10 408]

 

Why in gods name do we need a constant pitch count? Or a "... Down" placeholder before the actual down and distance is known in football? It's too much...

 

Or for hockey a lot of the FSNs have a constant shot clock which is just distracting (since they have the numbers colored yellow and stick out like a sore thumb). I think NBC's got on screen sports presentation nailed. Scorebars for football, basketball (although the RSNs persist in using a box), hockey, a shrunken bar for soccer and an out of the way box for baseball (although its cluttered as fuck with all those trackers but that could just be on the RSN level. I've yet to see one for the network since they don't have a single baseball property in their portfolio).

[Viper550 268]

 

Scorebars for baseball don't really work. You really need them to take up as little screen space as possible since the ball could turn up in just about any portion of the screen at any time. Also with all the junk they're putting in on screen baseball scoreboards, a bar would get either cluttered or impossible to read quickly. Case and point FOX's 2006-2008 look that used a top bar for all the sports and the baseball version was cluttered as hell and it didn't even contain stuff like pitch counts yet.

 

Sportsnet still uses a bar, based off its (now old) NHL scoreboard, but across the bottom of the screen instead. When they did add pitch count, they docked it to the strike zone graphic instead.

[A3N 996]

There are ways that FOX could adopt a scorebar and still incorporate pitch count, etc. I agree that a smaller bar/box in baseball is the route to go, but FOX took a big step back with this year's update. The only reason they went back to the FOXBOX was because of ESPN, and it takes up a lot more space on the screen now.

[AaronQ 259]

Found the new intro for the NBA on the regional FOX Sports. This is from FOX Sports Ohio for the Cavs.

[BillyCovington 1]

Hi Guys! It's been fascinating reading through the comments in this thread since the launch of the new look. I've noticed that there doesn't seem to be any input from anyone who actually works at Fox, so I figured I would join the forum and contribute a bit.

 

I must tell you that I'm NOT speaking as an official representative of Fox. I am speaking only for myself. I will definitely be sure to keep true to my confidentiality agreement. But with that said, I'll be happy to answer some questions for you, as long as I'm sure that I'm not violating anything.

 

I work at the Fox 1440 building in Santa Monica (yes, the one you can see from the 405 freeway), supporting the graphics for Fox Deportes and Fox's Soccer productions. They also do Mundo Fox and some Fox UFC post production out of this building. It's been a fun year implementing these new looks across all the sports.

 

Personally, I'm a big advocate in the idea that sharing ideas helps everyone, so to that end, I'll be happy to share whatever I'm legally able to.

[A3N 996]

 

Hi Guys! It's been fascinating reading through the comments in this thread since the launch of the new look. I've noticed that there doesn't seem to be any input from anyone who actually works at Fox, so I figured I would join the forum and contribute a bit.

 

I must tell you that I'm NOT speaking as an official representative of Fox. I am speaking only for myself. I will definitely be sure to keep true to my confidentiality agreement. But with that said, I'll be happy to answer some questions for you, as long as I'm sure that I'm not violating anything.

 

I work at the Fox 1440 building in Santa Monica (yes, the one you can see from the 405 freeway), supporting the graphics for Fox Deportes and Fox's Soccer productions. They also do Mundo Fox and some Fox UFC post production out of this building. It's been a fun year implementing these new looks across all the sports.

 

Personally, I'm a big advocate in the idea that sharing ideas helps everyone, so to that end, I'll be happy to share whatever I'm legally able to.

 

Hi Billy, and welcome to TVNT! Do you think that there will be some tweaks to the MLB portion of the graphics? Perhaps moving the FoxBox back to the top of the screen? Also, this new graphics package is more simplistic than the last pack, would you be able to tell us what the thought/design process was on that?

 

*Just my opinion*... on the MLB graphics, I think that they should incorporate the pitcher/pitch count bar into the main FoxBox, instead of having it float above it

[Action Newsroom 1149]

 

Personally, I'm a big advocate in the idea that sharing ideas helps everyone, so to that end, I'll be happy to share whatever I'm legally able to.

 

Hi Billy. I loved some of the NFL packages over the years. Including these:

 

Did you help put these together? And which ones were favorites?

Also, did you help with the new sport-wide logo? What was the idea and/or concept behind it?

And same thing with new Cleatus.

[Viper550 268]

My big problem with a lot of these graphics are that they look a bit bland, especially the scoreboards (and especially the hockey one, which uses the same template for CFB despite only having abbreviations). Why can't things (i.e. the NHL scoreboard, which really could use some team logos to justify the increased width) be more like the NBA one?

[BillyCovington 1]

Hi guys!

Here's what I know, and my best guesses.

 

Now, please take this all with a grain of salt, because I don't work at the lot, where these decisions were made, and have only really been implementing the new designs. I was NOT directly involved with the design process, but have asked some of the same questions you guys have, and this is what I was told by various people, along with my own speculation and assumptions/reasoning...

 

 

 

Hi Billy, and welcome to TVNT! Do you think that there will be some tweaks to the MLB portion of the graphics? Perhaps moving the FoxBox back to the top of the screen? Also, this new graphics package is more simplistic than the last pack, would you be able to tell us what the thought/design process was on that?

 

*Just my opinion*... on the MLB graphics, I think that they should incorporate the pitcher/pitch count bar into the main FoxBox, instead of having it float above it

 

They definitely thought long and hard about where to place the FoxBox, for each of these sports. There are specific reasons for their placement (the placement is not arbitrary), but I haven't been privvy to all of those specific reasons, I can only make my own best assumptions.

 

However, if you think about it, it does make sense to have the Baseball FoxBox in the lower-left, because that leaves the rest of the screen clear, to be able to clearly show the batter when the camera is behind home plate, fly-balls coming down from the top of the screen into the outfielder's mitt, the position of the outfielders from the perspective of behind home plate, etc. Nothing much happens in the lower-left of the screen most of the time in Baseball. But a lot of action happens in the center-bottom, and the top two-thirds. You never want to have a graphic laying over the top of someone's head, either.

 

I was told the concept behind the new design was to make the entire graphics package feel more like an "app" - more functional than flashy. And to make it modular and efficient. The idea, I was told, was to not distract from the action, to be much more legible than the previous package was, and to use the space as efficiently as possible.

 

When you talk specifically about the pitcher/count bar, I would suspect that the reason they made it a separate piece from the main FoxBox was that they wanted to continue that simplification of the graphics package, to minimize any kind of "cluttered" feeling. Plus, it can disappear easily if it's a separate piece, whereas if you had the foxbox grow/change shape to incorporate it, that also significantly complicates the way the graphic is built. It can be done, but it makes it a lot more complicated and is a whole other concept than the modular concept that I think they were going for.

 

 

 

Hi Billy. I loved some of the NFL packages over the years. Including these:

 

Did you help put these together? And which ones were favorites?

Also, did you help with the new sport-wide logo? What was the idea and/or concept behind it?

And same thing with new Cleatus.

 

 

I didn't personally participate in any of the designs. I only implemented the elements for Fox Deportes, so I can't speak on behalf of the designers/Creative Director.

 

Personally, I do quite like the newest NFL Foxbox better than any previous NFL Foxbox/Bar design. It really is very efficient and well thought out in terms of minimizing the space the graphic takes up, while still showing the typical information that viewers have come to expect from a Foxbox, in a very readable and easily-understood way. Now that I've gotten used to it and thought about it, I think it's brilliant.

 

The new FOX NFL shield logo and Cleatus designs are interesting as well. I quite like them, personally. But I haven't inquired as to the origins of the changes/concepts.

 

Changing the font of the "NFL" letters to that particular block-serif font broadcasts (pardon the pun) that this is the NFL in particular. It just drives it home harder.

 

As you've probably also seen, both the FOX NFL and the FOX COLLEGE FOOTBALL logos have become shields this year, rather than blocks. I can't speak to why they changed to shields, other than guess that the NFL's logo is a shield, and they're what everyone thinks of when you say Football. A shield has become a symbol of the sport of Football. There are also lots of creative things you can do with a shield, including making Cleatus use it as an actual shield, as they've done in the past with the rectangular logo. I think it will be more successful with an actual shield-shaped logo.

 

As far as changing from "NFL ON FOX" to just "FOX NFL" - I can also only guess here, but when the Fox Soccer Channel rebranded to just "FOX SOCCER", they got a nice looking logo out of it. When Fox Soccer Channel went away and the soccer productions were folded into FS1 and FS2, the Creative Director wanted to keep "FOX SOCCER" as the branding for that sport (rather to change to a new logo and make it "SOCCER ON FOX"). They seem to be gradually changing to this format for all the sports: FOX [sPORT]. So, I suppose that's the legacy of Fox Soccer Channel?

 

For Cleatus, I think this new design gives the robot a new sense of energy, with all of that glowing power inside. He doesn't seem as "heavy" and metallic, he seems lighter and quicker. I don't get so much of a frictional "metal-on-metal" feeling from this new look. I think it just breathes new life into him.

 

 

 

 

My big problem with a lot of these graphics are that they look a bit bland, especially the scoreboards (and especially the hockey one, which uses the same template for CFB despite only having abbreviations). Why can't things (i.e. the NHL scoreboard, which really could use some team logos to justify the increased width) be more like the NBA one?

 

I hear what you're saying in terms of the simplicity of this new package, but the concept was to make it more functional than flashy. To make legibility and functionality number one. If a graphic is unreadable, what's the point of having that graphic? Just lose it and show the video clean. It's just clutter at that point.

 

Our job as graphic designers is to present the graphics in the most clear/legible way, while still maintaining a sense of style and identity. I think this look achieves that. I think there is a lot of style here (albeit subtle). I like the detail of the glass borders, I like the detail of the nice subtle gradients, and in the way the logos and text animate into place. Little, subtle things, but nice things, that don't distract from the purpose of the graphic, and that maintain legibility.

 

I do like the NBA score bar. It works for the NBA, because most of the action is in the upper two-thirds of the screen for NBA games. There's also the fact that in the NBA, you get seven timeouts, and if you want to show that constantly, like is done in the NFL, you kind of have to have a long bar.

 

For Hockey, I'd say most of the action happens right in the middle of the screen, so you could have the bar up top or down below. But again, I think they're trying to be as efficient as possible and minimize the footprint of the graphics themselves. With hockey, it's not necessary to show much more than the two teams, their scores, the clock, the period, and the power play, and the power play comes/goes. If you can fit that into a graphic that has a smaller footprint, you should do that, if your goal is to be as efficient as possible. The power play can be a module because it comes/goes.

 

Anyway, like I said, please take all of this with a grain of salt. This is purely my perspective, with some insight I've had from working here. Hope this helps. Thanks!

[A3N 996]

 

Hi guys!

Here's what I know, and my best guesses.

 

Now, please take this all with a grain of salt, because I don't work at the lot, where these decisions were made, and have only really been implementing the new designs. I was NOT directly involved with the design process, but have asked some of the same questions you guys have, and this is what I was told by various people, along with my own speculation and assumptions/reasoning...

 

 

 

They definitely thought long and hard about where to place the FoxBox, for each of these sports. There are specific reasons for their placement (the placement is not arbitrary), but I haven't been privvy to all of those specific reasons, I can only make my own best assumptions.

 

However, if you think about it, it does make sense to have the Baseball FoxBox in the lower-left, because that leaves the rest of the screen clear, to be able to clearly show the batter when the camera is behind home plate, fly-balls coming down from the top of the screen into the outfielder's mitt, the position of the outfielders from the perspective of behind home plate, etc. Nothing much happens in the lower-left of the screen most of the time in Baseball. But a lot of action happens in the center-bottom, and the top two-thirds. You never want to have a graphic laying over the top of someone's head, either.

 

I was told the concept behind the new design was to make the entire graphics package feel more like an "app" - more functional than flashy. And to make it modular and efficient. The idea, I was told, was to not distract from the action, to be much more legible than the previous package was, and to use the space as efficiently as possible.

 

When you talk specifically about the pitcher/count bar, I would suspect that the reason they made it a separate piece from the main FoxBox was that they wanted to continue that simplification of the graphics package, to minimize any kind of "cluttered" feeling. Plus, it can disappear easily if it's a separate piece, whereas if you had the foxbox grow/change shape to incorporate it, that also significantly complicates the way the graphic is built. It can be done, but it makes it a lot more complicated and is a whole other concept than the modular concept that I think they were going for.

 

 

 

 

I didn't personally participate in any of the designs. I only implemented the elements for Fox Deportes, so I can't speak on behalf of the designers/Creative Director.

 

Personally, I do quite like the newest NFL Foxbox better than any previous NFL Foxbox/Bar design. It really is very efficient and well thought out in terms of minimizing the space the graphic takes up, while still showing the typical information that viewers have come to expect from a Foxbox, in a very readable and easily-understood way. Now that I've gotten used to it and thought about it, I think it's brilliant.

 

The new FOX NFL shield logo and Cleatus designs are interesting as well. I quite like them, personally. But I haven't inquired as to the origins of the changes/concepts.

 

Changing the font of the "NFL" letters to that particular block-serif font broadcasts (pardon the pun) that this is the NFL in particular. It just drives it home harder.

 

As you've probably also seen, both the FOX NFL and the FOX COLLEGE FOOTBALL logos have become shields this year, rather than blocks. I can't speak to why they changed to shields, other than guess that the NFL's logo is a shield, and they're what everyone thinks of when you say Football. A shield has become a symbol of the sport of Football. There are also lots of creative things you can do with a shield, including making Cleatus use it as an actual shield, as they've done in the past with the rectangular logo. I think it will be more successful with an actual shield-shaped logo.

 

As far as changing from "NFL ON FOX" to just "FOX NFL" - I can also only guess here, but when the Fox Soccer Channel rebranded to just "FOX SOCCER", they got a nice looking logo out of it. When Fox Soccer Channel went away and the soccer productions were folded into FS1 and FS2, the Creative Director wanted to keep "FOX SOCCER" as the branding for that sport (rather to change to a new logo and make it "SOCCER ON FOX"). They seem to be gradually changing to this format for all the sports: FOX [sPORT]. So, I suppose that's the legacy of Fox Soccer Channel?

 

For Cleatus, I think this new design gives the robot a new sense of energy, with all of that glowing power inside. He doesn't seem as "heavy" and metallic, he seems lighter and quicker. I don't get so much of a frictional "metal-on-metal" feeling from this new look. I think it just breathes new life into him.

 

 

 

 

I hear what you're saying in terms of the simplicity of this new package, but the concept was to make it more functional than flashy. To make legibility and functionality number one. If a graphic is unreadable, what's the point of having that graphic? Just lose it and show the video clean. It's just clutter at that point.

 

Our job as graphic designers is to present the graphics in the most clear/legible way, while still maintaining a sense of style and identity. I think this look achieves that. I think there is a lot of style here (albeit subtle). I like the detail of the glass borders, I like the detail of the nice subtle gradients, and in the way the logos and text animate into place. Little, subtle things, but nice things, that don't distract from the purpose of the graphic, and that maintain legibility.

 

I do like the NBA score bar. It works for the NBA, because most of the action is in the upper two-thirds of the screen for NBA games. There's also the fact that in the NBA, you get seven timeouts, and if you want to show that constantly, like is done in the NFL, you kind of have to have a long bar.

 

For Hockey, I'd say most of the action happens right in the middle of the screen, so you could have the bar up top or down below. But again, I think they're trying to be as efficient as possible and minimize the footprint of the graphics themselves. With hockey, it's not necessary to show much more than the two teams, their scores, the clock, the period, and the power play, and the power play comes/goes. If you can fit that into a graphic that has a smaller footprint, you should do that, if your goal is to be as efficient as possible. The power play can be a module because it comes/goes.

 

Anyway, like I said, please take all of this with a grain of salt. This is purely my perspective, with some insight I've had from working here. Hope this helps. Thanks!

 

Thanks for your response. I will add that if they really want to further enhance the viewing experience, then they really need to either get rid of the ticker, or reduce it in size.

[Viper550 268]

Well, I noticed they did make a change to the NHL scoreboard from what I saw in highlights last night; the Shots on Goal column got restyled, and now pushes the score column to the left of the box rather than stretching it further.

 

 

[WCAUTVNBC10 408]

That looks so much better. The yellow numbers for SOG was so distracting.

[BillyCovington 1]

 

Thanks for your response. I will add that if they really want to further enhance the viewing experience, then they really need to either get rid of the ticker, or reduce it in size.

 

Interesting... It's actually the same size as every other ticker in the world. The top of it rests at title-safety. The text sits between title and action safety. It actually is the exact same size as every other ticker out there.

 

I think the impression that you're getting that it's "bigger" is a result of it being one piece, rather than a strip that the text lives in, and something below it that's usually darker, which gives a separation between the area the text lives in and the rest of the ticker.

 

But when they switched to this "all-blue" look from the "silver strip/blue base" look they began with, they got rid of the separation that a strip creates, which gives the impression that it's "bigger" I suppose. But in actuality, it's the same size as every other ticker.

 

Personally, I don't like tickers running during games unless it's Breaking News. If it's Breaking News, I want to know what's going on. But other than that, I don't want to be distracted. So I do get what you're saying. But I think it should DEFINITELY be running during news shows and studio shows.

[A3N 996]

Interesting... It's actually the same size as every other ticker in the world. The top of it rests at title-safety. The text sits between title and action safety. It actually is the exact same size as every other ticker out there.

 

I think the impression that you're getting that it's "bigger" is a result of it being one piece, rather than a strip that the text lives in, and something below it that's usually darker, which gives a separation between the area the text lives in and the rest of the ticker.

 

But when they switched to this "all-blue" look from the "silver strip/blue base" look they began with, they got rid of the separation that a strip creates, which gives the impression that it's "bigger" I suppose. But in actuality, it's the same size as every other ticker.

 

Personally, I don't like tickers running during games unless it's Breaking News. If it's Breaking News, I want to know what's going on. But other than that, I don't want to be distracted. So I do get what you're saying. But I think it should DEFINITELY be running during news shows and studio shows.

Absolutely. Running the ticker during news/studio shows doesn't bother me, but during the whole game? I'm not trying to bag only on Fox Sports... ESPN is 10x worse when it comes to cluttering the screen. Thanks, for all the replies.

[Viper550 268]

http://regressing.deadspin.com/which-sports-network-wastes-the-most-space-with-its-sco-1582821805

 

Here's probably the most obsessive breakdown of ticker sizes I've seen.

[Action Newsroom 1149]

 

Hi guys!

Here's what I know, and my best guesses.

 

Now, please take this all with a grain of salt, because I don't work at the lot, where these decisions were made, and have only really been implementing the new designs. I was NOT directly involved with the design process, but have asked some of the same questions you guys have, and this is what I was told by various people, along with my own speculation and assumptions/reasoning...

 

 

 

They definitely thought long and hard about where to place the FoxBox, for each of these sports. There are specific reasons for their placement (the placement is not arbitrary), but I haven't been privvy to all of those specific reasons, I can only make my own best assumptions.

 

However, if you think about it, it does make sense to have the Baseball FoxBox in the lower-left, because that leaves the rest of the screen clear, to be able to clearly show the batter when the camera is behind home plate, fly-balls coming down from the top of the screen into the outfielder's mitt, the position of the outfielders from the perspective of behind home plate, etc. Nothing much happens in the lower-left of the screen most of the time in Baseball. But a lot of action happens in the center-bottom, and the top two-thirds. You never want to have a graphic laying over the top of someone's head, either.

 

I was told the concept behind the new design was to make the entire graphics package feel more like an "app" - more functional than flashy. And to make it modular and efficient. The idea, I was told, was to not distract from the action, to be much more legible than the previous package was, and to use the space as efficiently as possible.

 

When you talk specifically about the pitcher/count bar, I would suspect that the reason they made it a separate piece from the main FoxBox was that they wanted to continue that simplification of the graphics package, to minimize any kind of "cluttered" feeling. Plus, it can disappear easily if it's a separate piece, whereas if you had the foxbox grow/change shape to incorporate it, that also significantly complicates the way the graphic is built. It can be done, but it makes it a lot more complicated and is a whole other concept than the modular concept that I think they were going for.

 

 

 

 

I didn't personally participate in any of the designs. I only implemented the elements for Fox Deportes, so I can't speak on behalf of the designers/Creative Director.

 

Personally, I do quite like the newest NFL Foxbox better than any previous NFL Foxbox/Bar design. It really is very efficient and well thought out in terms of minimizing the space the graphic takes up, while still showing the typical information that viewers have come to expect from a Foxbox, in a very readable and easily-understood way. Now that I've gotten used to it and thought about it, I think it's brilliant.

 

The new FOX NFL shield logo and Cleatus designs are interesting as well. I quite like them, personally. But I haven't inquired as to the origins of the changes/concepts.

 

Changing the font of the "NFL" letters to that particular block-serif font broadcasts (pardon the pun) that this is the NFL in particular. It just drives it home harder.

 

As you've probably also seen, both the FOX NFL and the FOX COLLEGE FOOTBALL logos have become shields this year, rather than blocks. I can't speak to why they changed to shields, other than guess that the NFL's logo is a shield, and they're what everyone thinks of when you say Football. A shield has become a symbol of the sport of Football. There are also lots of creative things you can do with a shield, including making Cleatus use it as an actual shield, as they've done in the past with the rectangular logo. I think it will be more successful with an actual shield-shaped logo.

 

As far as changing from "NFL ON FOX" to just "FOX NFL" - I can also only guess here, but when the Fox Soccer Channel rebranded to just "FOX SOCCER", they got a nice looking logo out of it. When Fox Soccer Channel went away and the soccer productions were folded into FS1 and FS2, the Creative Director wanted to keep "FOX SOCCER" as the branding for that sport (rather to change to a new logo and make it "SOCCER ON FOX"). They seem to be gradually changing to this format for all the sports: FOX [sPORT]. So, I suppose that's the legacy of Fox Soccer Channel?

 

For Cleatus, I think this new design gives the robot a new sense of energy, with all of that glowing power inside. He doesn't seem as "heavy" and metallic, he seems lighter and quicker. I don't get so much of a frictional "metal-on-metal" feeling from this new look. I think it just breathes new life into him.

 

Anyway, like I said, please take all of this with a grain of salt. This is purely my perspective, with some insight I've had from working here. Hope this helps. Thanks!

 

Thanks for your response, Billy! I'm very grateful for it and I really enjoyed your insight on these graphics and Cleatus. I am now very curious about your job at Fox Deportes. What are some of the elements you've worked on and what are your accomplishments so far?

[cbs2newengland 71]

I've noticed today on FS1 a minor league NASCAR race (step below Nationwide?) and it was using last season's crawl format. I'm not sure if they didn't get the update or will next year go back to a more viewer friendly graphics. Title-by-title race graphics like from the 90s should stay in that decade. Looks bad in HD in the 10s.

[Mannym13 15]

 

I've noticed today on FS1 a minor league NASCAR race (step below Nationwide?) and it was using last season's crawl format. I'm not sure if they didn't get the update or will next year go back to a more viewer friendly graphics. Title-by-title race graphics like from the 90s should stay in that decade. Looks bad in HD in the 10s.

 

The race was probably a pro series race. If not, then idk what it was and that's well below Nationwide. As for the graphics, I actually like the title-by-title. It gives me the full 43 car field faster than the crawl. FOX also found a way to perfect it toward the middle of their coverage and it looked good.

 

I took the time to find video of races and keep track of the time on my phone that it takes for the graphic to get through the 43 car field:

UNSCIENTIFIC

FOX 2014 (Title-by-title): 1:05.37 3

FOX 2012 (crawl): 1:35.14 7

TNT 2014 (crawl): 1:31.53 6

ESPN 2014 (crawl): 1:21.54 5

NBC 2002 (title-by-title): 1:17.60 4

NBC 2006 (crawl): 56.32 1 but it was almost too fast to comprehend sometimes because it was scrolling. A title-by-title is easier to understand at a faster pace because the info doesn't move.

ABC 2000 (title-by-title): 56.82 2

 

Conclusion: Title-by-title does what it needs to, give me my info quickly. In my unscientific experiment the title-by-title held 3 of the fastest 5 times. So I think that yes it can look outdated, but it does a better job than what we call modern or up-to-date.

[cbs2newengland 71]

 

The race was probably a pro series race. If not, then idk what it was and that's well below Nationwide. As for the graphics, I actually like the title-by-title. It gives me the full 43 car field faster than the crawl. FOX also found a way to perfect it toward the middle of their coverage and it looked good.

 

I took the time to find video of races and keep track of the time on my phone that it takes for the graphic to get through the 43 car field:

UNSCIENTIFIC

FOX 2014 (Title-by-title): 1:05.37 3

FOX 2012 (crawl): 1:35.14 7

TNT 2014 (crawl): 1:31.53 6

ESPN 2014 (crawl): 1:21.54 5

NBC 2002 (title-by-title): 1:17.60 4

NBC 2006 (crawl): 56.32 1 but it was almost too fast to comprehend sometimes because it was scrolling. A title-by-title is easier to understand at a faster pace because the info doesn't move.

ABC 2000 (title-by-title): 56.82 2

 

Conclusion: Title-by-title does what it needs to, give me my info quickly. In my unscientific experiment the title-by-title held 3 of the fastest 5 times. So I think that yes it can look outdated, but it does a better job than what we call modern or up-to-date.

 

if I miss Junior on the crawl, I just say "wait till the next cycle." the title by title was altered to show the top 3, but I liked ESPN's setup of creating its own line. I think even Fox did that when they had the crawl too coming to think of it.

[Mannym13 15]

 

I think even Fox did that when they had the crawl too coming to think of it.

 

Yeah it would pop up next to the lap counter

[Georgie56 3059]

Fox airs the final round of the Franklin Templeton Shootout on Saturday, so the golf graphics will debut tonorrow.

[Viper550 268]

And of course, they're using, let's just say the WHDH version of their energetic "style". Joe Buck haters are already running rampant on Twitter.

 

Plus Fox still thinks its NFL music fits with everything. It doesn't, plus I don't think it would be that hard to pick up In Celebration of Man (a.k.a. the old NBC U.S. Open theme) for it to at least keep some familiarity going in.

 

But as expected (and had predicted earlier), the new graphics work quite well for golf.

[AaronQ 259]

The FOX BOX got into the holiday spirit.

[Viper550 268]

Also, that Florida/Washington shootout the other night (which, additionally, was rather interesting by default) also managed to make the Fox Box tilt.