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10 hours ago, civic110 said:

The news at 8 on WLNY appears to be a full, live hour of news.

 

WUPA's 8pm news in Detroit which is produced by WCBS also moved to a full hour and live.

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3 hours ago, Big Rollo Smokes said:

WUPA is in Atlanta.

 

I know, I just wanted to comment. Since it only lasted 30 minutes and was recorded with Dana Tyler. And as it is a news program also produced by WCBS...

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55 minutes ago, TheNewsTV said:

I know, I just wanted to comment. Since it only lasted 30 minutes and was recorded with Dana Tyler. And as it is a news program also produced by WCBS...

 

You know it's Atlanta, but you said Detroit.

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7 hours ago, TheNewsTV said:

 

I know, I just wanted to comment. Since it only lasted 30 minutes and was recorded with Dana Tyler. And as it is a news program also produced by WCBS...

Just say "my bad", admit you erred and thank me for the correction. Backtracking is not a good look.

 

And, you're welcome. 

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This bug appeared at 5:30 for about a minute this evening, before being taken away and replaced by the normal blue one.

 

Pretty weird. The ugly gradient reminds me of CBSN's old "Red & Blue" look (and also 1990s web design).

 

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On 3/21/2024 at 6:39 PM, Geoffrey said:

This bug appeared at 5:30 for about a minute this evening, before being taken away and replaced by the normal blue one.

 

Pretty weird. The ugly gradient reminds me of CBSN's old "Red & Blue" look (and also 1990s web design).

 

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Weird. Perhaps they were taking after the NYC flag? But I agree, that gradient does not look good.

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46 minutes ago, MD TV said:

Here it is:

 

 

This was a very nicely done tribute, but I am in shock that this was Dana's last day.  We knew Dana (and Dick Brennan) were leaving the 6pm newscast, but she was supposed to remain with the station as a fill-in anchor and contributor.  However, per an article in Newsday.com (paywalled), which cited a memo from GM Johnny Green, Dana thought about it and decided that today would be her last day.  The Newsday.com article goes on to mention that several in the news industry believe this move is directly related to budget cuts at Paramount Global.

 

Regardless of the reason, this feels like a pretty abrupt ending for someone who devoted nearly 34 years of her life and career to this station.  The entire process, starting with a leaked internal memo announcing that Dana and DIck would be "transitioning" off the 6pm newscast, seems  like it was completely mishandled.  

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Just watched the video- she noted her goodbye at the end was pre-taped which is understandable because she seemed quite emotional and this is clearly not what she wants- but it is the super harsh reality of the business. I do think Channel 2 could have done a better job saluting her and not a rushed piece for 8 minutes at the end of one newscast. She deserves better, but I think the reason she didn't get a longer send off is because she's being forced out and likely made this decision more last minute than expected. It also seems like she is not staying with the station in any capacity (unlike previous reports) which I really respect. She will go out with dignity and on a high note.

 

I'm still in shock about all of this, though (as I'm sure Dana is too); and it is all quite unfortunate. I really wish Dana happiness in whatever she choses to do next.

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12 minutes ago, NYNewsCoverage said:

Just watched the video- she noted her goodbye at the end was pre-taped which is understandable because she seemed quite emotional and this is clearly not what she wants- but it is the super harsh reality of the business. I do think Channel 2 could have done a better job saluting her and not a rushed piece for 8 minutes at the end of one newscast. She deserves better, but I think the reason she didn't get a longer send off is because she's being forced out and likely made this decision more last minute than expected. It also seems like she is not staying with the station in any capacity (unlike previous reports) which I really respect. She will go out with dignity and on a high note.

 

I'm still in shock about all of this, though (as I'm sure Dana is too); and it is all quite unfortunate. I really wish Dana happiness in whatever she choses to do next.

almost poetic that this comes the same week as Chuck's 50th anniversary over on 4. Two legends being treated very differently by their stations. Wishing Dana all the best.

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2 hours ago, MD TV said:

Here it is:

 

 

With Dana Tyler's time at CBS2 coming to a close.  Hopefully this isn't goodbye for Dana, assuming she decides to show up at one of the competing NYC stations (NBC4, FOX5, ABC7, or PIX11) for I believe she's got a few more years left in reporting news.  Wishing Dana all the best.

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5 minutes ago, atlnewsfan03 said:

With Dana Tyler's time at CBS2 coming to a close.  Hopefully this isn't goodbye for Dana, assuming she decides to show up at one of the competing NYC stations (NBC4, FOX5, ABC7, or PIX11) for I believe she's got a few more years left in reporting news.  Wishing Dana all the best.

I hope so. (Sue Simmonds even said on her last day she hoped to get employment somewhere else). Unfortunately, at Dana's age - -and presumable price tag -- stations may be reluctant to hire her.

 

If Lori Stokes getting hired at Fox 5 was any indication, hopefully stations aren't averse to picking up older talent.

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11 hours ago, atlnewsfan03 said:

With Dana Tyler's time at CBS2 coming to a close.  Hopefully this isn't goodbye for Dana, assuming she decides to show up at one of the competing NYC stations (NBC4, FOX5, ABC7, or PIX11) for I believe she's got a few more years left in reporting news.  Wishing Dana all the best.

None of those places have weekday openings. WABC has not replaced Sandra on weekends, and I’m not convinced they’re going to.

 

I’m probably in the minority here, but what has she done in all those years to move the needle at WCBS? She hasn’t always seemed like the easiest to work with. I’m fairly confident her anchoring days are done. Regardless of my thoughts on her, she’s had a long career with the same employer and many accomplishments, she should enjoy retirement. No matter how great of a career, there’s no need for people to be anchoring into their 80s (I’m looking at you Chuck). 

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2 hours ago, TVNewsLover said:

None of those places have weekday openings. WABC has not replaced Sandra on weekends, and I’m not convinced they’re going to.

 

I’m probably in the minority here, but what has she done in all those years to move the needle at WCBS? She hasn’t always seemed like the easiest to work with. I’m fairly confident her anchoring days are done. Regardless of my thoughts on her, she’s had a long career with the same employer and many accomplishments, she should enjoy retirement. No matter how great of a career, there’s no need for people to be anchoring into their 80s (I’m looking at you Chuck). 

Reguarding Dana, admittedly she hasn't been the best solo anachor in recent years and She's better with a partner. As for ratings..eehh. I don't think Dana is CBS 2's problem, their presentation is.

 

Anchoring is not a physically taxing job, it's about personality and commanding an audience. If someone is still able to anchor into their 80s, is mentally alert, looks good and camera and still draws an audience, there's no reason for them to retire. Often times veterans have contacts and resources that the younger talent do not. The problem becomes if the audience doesn't care to see you anymore and your massive pay is takin resoruces from elsewhere (but let's also extend that pay- straining-resources scrutiny to company exec salaries).

 

There's a common mindset that your career stops at 65. Assuming you live to be 90 and (physically fit)...what will you be doing with yourself for 20+ years. every old person isn't close with your family, and their friends may not be physically agile. A purpose and activity keeps people going.

 

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I’ve been trying to figure out the words to describe what I think and how I feel with regards to Dana and WCBS at this moment. The nearest comparison I’ve settled on is that this has been like seeing a friend be grievously and irreparably wronged and there is nothing you can do.

 

Dana was pushed out the door, whether it be because of budget cuts or age or whatever else. I understand why she decided to fully exit the station at this time, but the abruptness of her complete departure was a shock.

 

Reflecting on it, WCBS has rarely ever ‘sent someone off.’ The constant turnover and abrupt dismissals of icons and legends meant that personalities never had an on air goodbye— even if they deserved one. The bare minimum that was done for Dana— a hastily recut video tribute from her NYSBA Hall of Fame induction— is the most I can remember ever seeing on their air. (Although I vaguely remember a few minutes on air acknowledging Stephen Clark’s last day.)

 

Dana was a survivor— somehow making it through the darkest years of WCBS. Think about all of the times that Dana had to put up a strong appearance while the station was in chaos (the massacre, dismissing Stephen, dismissing Jim Rosenfield, dismissing Jim Jensen, tossing Warner aside, the times when Angela, Roz, and Kristine replaced her at 11, and so many more). Dana continued to be the familiar face to us, after all of the ups and many, many downs she went through at WCBS.

 

We all consume local news differently now. Local newscasts are no longer packed with stories impacting the local communities and viewing area, with more and more time being used for filler national stories (or worse, appalling in newscast product ad segments).

 

Many no longer turn on the 5/6 news while making dinner, or the 11 before drifting off. Most people now read a jumble of stories from a variety of sources on our phones throughout the day.

 

What that means, as everyone here knows, is that the local anchor is less important than ever. Those left watching local news (and television as a whole) are an older and older audience— audiences that are comfortable with the faces they recognize. We are witnessing the last generation of legendary news anchors. 

 

Losing Dana isn’t going to push most people to change the channel; Maurice and Kristine are also familiar and trusted faces who are good anchors. But Dana was the heart and soul of the WCBS product. She always exuded warmth and the constant through all of the years of change.

 

After the recent passings of Pablo Guzman, Max Gomez, and Frank Field, I didn’t tune in to see what Kristine or Dick or Chris would say— I wanted to hear how Dana would remember them. Because more than any other anchor, honestly in the whole New York market, Dana came across as the one who cared about people. 

 

We focus a lot on the on air product, but if were to glance today at the posts of current and former colleagues of Dana online, you would see a lot of gratitude for what she did off camera too. So many credit her with making them better, investing in their success, sending notes of praise or offering a helping hand or open ear. All of it summed up by saying: Dana truly cared.

 

It is understandable why she decided to leave now, after being told there was no longer a regular space for her at a station that produces nine hours of daily news. Throwing up the most recent prepared montage of her— a rushed, re-cut version of her 2022 NYSBA Hall of Fame tribute— didn’t really capture the fact that they were saying goodbye to someone so important to that news organization. 

 

What she deserved is similar to what Chuck is receiving now: a celebration leading up to her departure. She deserved to have some of her favorite stories reaired, to have tributes from current and past colleagues (the likes of Jim Rosenfield, Ernie Anastos, Ira Joe Fisher, Warner Wolf, Don Dahler, and Stephen Clark— who she was part of a tribute video for a few years ago when he retired from his station in Detroit), and even tributes from her competitors (who she graciously took time to thank in her final words). We should have seen her sit down with Cindy for an extended conversation at 9am about her career and the stories she has covered.

 

All of that (and more) is what Dana deserved.

 

She deserved better. And we deserved better. 

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5 hours ago, TVNewsLover said:

No matter how great of a career, there’s no need for people to be anchoring into their 80s (I’m looking at you Chuck). 

I know you probably don’t mean it this way, but this comes off a bit ageist to me. Chuck is willing to work, NBC is willing to have him work, the viewers love him, and he’s still good at what he does, so I don’t see any reason for him to stop just because he’s old. It’s not as though he’s impeding younger journalists from greater opportunities. Besides, David Ushery and Natalie Pasquarella are the primary anchors there now, and if anything, having someone like Chuck in your newsroom to mentor younger journalists is an asset, not a liability.

 

As far as Dana’s concerned, I’ve never met her, so I can’t speak to what others have said about her. Some people talk about her being supposedly difficult to work with, others have nothing but great things to say about her. That said, she was a good anchor who did her job well for decades, and I think she deserved acknowledgment for that. Ideally, one could argue she should’ve been given a bigger sendoff, but considering the nature of the TV news business, I’m glad she was given any sort of sendoff at all.

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