cbs2newengland
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For the first 28 seasons, then moved an hour earlier two years ago; will move back to the 3:30 slot this coming fall.
wow that's crazy running at 2:30 CT for a while? So used to it at 7:30 living in the ET zone.
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I couldn't help to laugh my ass off at 13:00 with sanewsguy's last video. They developed the graphics. Lie! Less clutter. Another Lie! We are making it user friendly. Another lie! (look at their Fb page!) Again, I'll repeat this - I'll be the happiest guy on the planet when an ex-Belo station can just be honest and say its done by their new owner.
2. Do they really break up their newscasts with an episode of Jeopardy at 4:30?
Could be they do better in ratings, I can't speak for sure since I don't live in that market. The CT zone is interesting when some syndies run as opposed to the ET area. I think WLS runs Jeopardy at 3:30?
(sidenote) Deborah Knapp, wasn't she in Philadelphia many moons ago? I've seen that face on retro clips of WCAU if I am not mistaken.
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Did they switch character generators? Or was Gannett successful to port the USA Today style to the Miranda systems?
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I managed to find a few tidbits of viewer hate for the graphics:
Of course Gannett is forcing the stations to ignore the comments, because rolling back to the Hothaus won't happen.
I'd be the happiest guy on the planet when one of the ex-Belos have the stones to say "these new graphics come from our new parent company that also owns the USA Today." Saying that they were getting rid of clutter cliche (at least one of the ex Belos said that) was only for the original Gannett stations that swept away the insane Randy Pyburn POS graphics. (That man is so damn overrated.) Belo never used them, so therefore there is no reason to say that.
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Alright, I saw the commercial cbs4dallas was talking about. I captured it with my webcam since my new tuner hasn't come in yet. I'll recapture it over the weekend and post it in good quality. The graphics are actually launching the 14th, a Thursday.
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If you can make it out, they actually used the NBC cut in the promo. Your ears are not deceiving you.
And an additional treat, KENS 5's version of This Is Home! :awesome: :drool: :wub:
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This has not hit the airwaves yet so you're getting the early look at it. Wow, I'm in love with it. That's impressive. Still doesn't change my opinion of the crap that comes from G3 but the stuff KENS can do in-house, wow.
I also like how they worked the meanings of the colors in there without coming out and telling you (or mentioning USA Today lol).
Also, looks like KENS won't be adding the CBS eye to the open like the other Gannett stations have. I hope not, it would look awkward.
I remember the days when the local news anchors were like my parents. You NEVER befriended your parents "back in the day." probably in the last 2 decades, it seems like there is this very inappropriate relationships between the viewer and the air talent. I don't like it.
Where's the authority in local TV these days?
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As a producer, I can't even imagine the extra time/forethought it takes to make sure the segment colors match.
It's hard enough in my shop, which is perpetually understaffed, to remember to click the drop down menu to add one of the scrolling banners (breaking news, developing news, weather alert, etc) when creating a super on the fly, much less have to remember which segment belongs under which color.
In re to "understaffed" that would explain the "20th Century Budget" I sometime joke to the family about when Fox does shows with a really tight budget. I coined that referring to the earlier seasons of the X Files' cheap quality, in your case its a flagship O&O.
At least you got the ability to run a Chyron on the fly, not sure how Gannett can do that, let alone what you described.
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Okay. There are a few things that annoy me about the Gannett Graphics, however, the biggest annoyance to me is how they categorize stories. If you're talking about an app, its not LIFE! IT'S TECH! I mean come on! I wonder if there is some type of flow chart regarding choosing a story category.
I'll take the USATODAY-owned stations more seriously if they just act like the real damned paper, like use 4 colors instead.
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http://forums.tvnewstalk.net/index.php?/topic/12313-wcnc-rebranded-to-nbc-charlotte-news/
FINALLY! WCNC IS NO LONGER A RED HEADED STEP CHILD!
That's good news. However the NBC Charlotte to me was a little weird, because there low intelligent people who would probably affiliate WCNC as the NBC Network. I know people who get confused what's local and what's network. WVIT up in CT is the same thing (and I thought most of their systems had WVIT on 30.) Network + Market needs something in the middle - like a channel #. Do you like eating a sandwich without anything inside?
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That KHOU.com logo looks so plain...
Let's hope it's not a sign of things to come. -.-
well you know, everything must look plain to be fair - because we don't want to offend the looks that are beyond awesome looking...
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I got an update saying that the WCNC graphics were moved, once again, to Thursday at noon. Apparently the news department wanted more time to practice with the graphics. However they already have a promo showing the launch of the new look for July 30th. We'll see...
I can see why they need more practice.
When you are dealing with a brand that's bigger than a USA Today, I can see why they got clearance to do that.
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There's only one 'JZ.
And WBZ would say the same thing about how "'local' we want our station to be"
Not saying that's wrong, but I do see the corporate's view too. If anything corporate should come up with a mandate and fuse their looks with the station's local branding and imaging, but the locals should never give the 3 fingered salute to corporate.
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Is WABC up for possible new graphics this year? It's been 3 years since the last update, which was the amount of time between the last ones and the current ones... Just putting it out there...
I liked the previous graphics package, but I do like the current open with the flyover of Manhattan. The fonts look ether too stiff or tight on the L3.
I don't think it's time yet. The last graphic package was looking old after 3 years, the current graphics aren't looking old yet. I think ABC needs to look at KTRK and WPVI before they get to WABC for new graphics.
Noooo not WPVI - too much eye candy. I like KTRK's - different from the generic Helvetica/Univers, all blue packaging. Only change the graphics, but not the theme - just wanted to say that.
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The rest of the branding, ie "KHOU stands for Houston", is definitely gonna go the way of "This is Home."
The reason why KHOU Stood "for Houston" was they were branded 11 News for 98 to 2011 and KHOU 11 News for 9 years prior. The branding to me was more temporary to reinforce the calls into the news branding again. (noticed how tongue tied all the anchors were for nearly a year after the rebrand.) I like the "Standing for Houston" branding, it worked well with the current Propulsion theme, showing pride of your market. But of course, this entire image will be broken with the new Gannett packaging. It won't work at all with This Is[n't] Home.
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I guess I will be the unpopular one, but I don't think Texas should be spared from the change just because it's Texas. And I doubt that Gannett sees it that way either. You could come up with an argument with every station or cluster of Gannett stations why they should get to do their own thing, but when it comes down to it....no one is more special than the other.
I agree on the latter. No station is special whatsoever. Gannett is just like CBS which forces branding down the viewers throats. There are different ways to push a mandate. Giving them a few options, like a graphical palette, one this style, another this style, etc. And their mandates as I said earlier were so obviously lame.
Out of the entire Texas markets, I think the most patriotic is Houston, because the big 3 stations have some form of the Lone Star state or red white blue scheme (which also goes along with the American flag.) Will Gannett ruin a station like KHOU of their tradition of showing their love to the Lone Star State? I'm betting they will. If anything it will be watered down to the logo - if that survives the new look.
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So if my record keeping is up to date, the following stations have yet to make the switch to the Gannett graphics:
WCNC (Poss July 30)
WFAA (Poss Aug 20)
KHOU
KENS
KVUE
KREM
KTVB
And all London Broadcasting Stations.
The following stations have yet to make their website switch:
WVEC
WHAS
WWL
WFAA
KHOU
KREM
KING
NWCN
KGW
All London Broadcasting Stations.
Anyone seen any teasers about changes coming with any of these stations?
Sometimes the best is saved for last. One would hope (but not counting on it) where they would focus on the Texas stations and put some legacy branding (like The Spirit) and incorporate it into TIH. But I am not holding my breath.
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Has any station ever switched out their graphics system while a news/weather emergency was taking place? This could be a first.
you're talking like the ones used for EAS? There probably is a downtime no less than 15 minutes I bet. Maybe an hour at the worse case. I'd assume (knowing general IT and older tech) is you prep up the new machine, switch over to the new one and shut down the old one in a timely matter to have a seamless cutover (to the viewer in this case.)
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Why does KGW have to use the crappiest cuts of TiH?
well that depends on - what is "crappy"?
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Listening to the new This Is Home montage; the second to last cut sounds likes it's incorporating a version of 'The Spirit of Texas' signature, albeit with a new melody. That might be the closest thing WFAA will have left of their classic musical signature.
To be quite honest, I think the new theme should be from another composer who did The Spirit, but didn't do TIH obviously. Not saying they should get away from a group's view of standardization, but Gannett's is just poor, I wished I could say it's so damn great.
Gari owns the news music business, and lot of their cuts that people hear are pretty lame. Their music isn't the same when Frank did it himself, they simply have an overrated monopoly.
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Maybe not on the level of, theoretically, WPVI were to dump MCTYW, but it would be a mistake. Granted, they got rid of the KUSA and KARE packages as well as the Good News package in Maine...they can't possibly be thinking of replacing the Spirit signature completely, can they?
Speaking of well-known signatures, fast forward to 2:53 in the This Is Home package (http://southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,1,1699)...
Of course, you're assuming that Gannett would axe Propulsion V. 2, I think the latter is inevitable, and while both KHOU/WFAA haven't used "The Spirit" for their on air branding, I bet viewers would have #TBT if they saw TIH launch on a Thursday and people probably go to Twitter and say "Hey, anyone remember 'The Spirit of Texas'?"*
*alright that might never happen, but in a perfect world, would that occur!
I can't comment on the link since I need to reload Chrome at the moment.
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One would hope. The Spirit of Texas is probably one the well known image tags to EVER exist (never mind how effective it was back in the day.) Replacing that with the midmarket-type This Is [What] Home would just be a tragedy to the legacy of the Belo stations.May be something special is planned for the Texas stations
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I suspect the KGW logo change was something that just came about very very recently. The NWCN open which had the new KREM logo had the now old KGW logo.
KHOU's actually looks like a live website, with the most real content as opposed to dummy content. [Never mind. They are testing by posting a lot of old stories. That said, it is fun to see the website update almost every five minutes with a bunch of different "new" stories. Maybe they are trying to move their entire archives to the new site.]
I actually like that feature, if that's the case, especially video. Why make content that took time and money to produce for the web to go to digital heaven suddenly? And what's with the logo? It looks so dark with the new layout? Houston is a market known as their logos in red white and blue, so why are their logo so dull??? I wonder.
(No intention to derail, but with the WFXT trade, I wonder what will happen when Cox gets the station; if all the 8 years of content on the MyFox site will go to digital heaven or not.)
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If the ots was all the way cut off (like the live bug is) it would be one thing. But on an SD feed a portion of the graphic (20 - 25%) is visible in the frame, which made it even more ridiculous.
although their OTS is awesome when a B-roll runs, IIRC, the B-roll zooms on screen - like its 1982 again!
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It all depends on what graphics/rundown systems they have. Belo's ran on Miranda (as mentioned earlier) - at least the Texas stations did. If the London stations use ENPS and Chyron - it would make it easier for them to do the switch even faster.
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It gets cut off and it is annoying as hell. Also cut off is the live bug and the secondary "segment" bug
well that really sucks. As I said before, I love that graphics package, but that's just really poor execution. I think this is consistent to the other stations because I saw a WVEC clip on YouTube with the same problem. A little cutoff is understandable but if its way off the frame, need I say more?
Well it makes the case to push the Gannett graphics, to be fair.
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going back to Gannett in general, but did KENS5 and the others change CGs or were they able to get the USA Today style on their Miranda systems as mentioned a month or two ago on this thread?