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Yes, the promos about the graphics changes are from the corporate level. Some of them use the exact same explanation package. Some do one that is more custom. Most of the BELO stations used the basic one that all the original Gannett stations used a year ago.
then that would make sense why they didn't say "new owners", back to an earlier rant of mine re to the package about on the new graphics.
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KNBC was apparently the first in the nation to do that when they moved to Universal City. But all of their content is sent out letter box, so it isn't an HD bonus.
Or is it the affiliates that downconvert (letterbox) the signal from the station?
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the package that WCBS ran at noon in an earlier link got me teary eyed. again, my condolences.
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"Only 30 Years"? That's a long time...
Experience kinda mess up the perception is what I meant and I thought he was at the station longer. He has been the face of the news for CBS 2 for more than a generation; I thought he was there like early 80s not like mid 80s.
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Oh my goodness! I'm sorry for his family and the loss to WCBS. My sincere condolences. Great local NY reporter.
Didn't know he was at Channel 2 for only 30 years, it felt like he was there longer.
Rest in Peace
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I've read some recent posts in this thread, I think what WPVI mgmt needs to realize what made 6 successful was the no frills approach even as Disney tried to slutify the O&Os in the latter half of the 90s. There was a reason why they were the only American station, never mind being in the Big 4 market to use a magnetic board for weather at the turn of the century. The gyro cam was a true innovation, possibly saving lives and property (a human plus a $50K camera) but this 360 is just (like what others said) just a desperation to address 10's Skyforce technology.
They seem to be desperate as they know its not if, but when 10 will KO the 1st place. The 3D thingy, this sports center desk seems to be out of character. Has the management been the same since the last 3 years? If it has, I bet the water has been tainted by their next door neighbor - JUST KIDDING!
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Moved this post to a more appropriate location.
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Unless the media division keeps USA Today in the spinoff.
I think if anything remotely close, that the media division might have a stake with USATODAY.com.
As I once said in the shoutbox:
Gannett is overly proud. Some of you mentioned that in the past that they frequently disclose that they are sister organizations to USA Today. I'm not sure I would be bragging about being USA Today's corporate sibling - it's bland journalism reduced to the lowest common denominator. However USA Today would be a good paper to read if you were starting to learn English.
couldn't you save some characters and just say "look at my sig"?
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So KENS5 changed the name of their weekly high school football segment. It used to be called "KENS5 Friday Night Football". Guess what? It's now "USA Today High School Sports"... :bang:
But do they need to name the entire segment after the paper? You go to WOAI, who's called Friday Night Fever, KSAT has Big Game Coverage, and KABB has High School To The Max. All are local brands used for many years. Then you go to KENS and it's called "USA Today High School Sports". It just looks so dumb. I don't mind if they mention it casually throughout the segment. It's a minor annoyance, but to actually name the entire segment after it? Ugh, can't wait for the spinoff to be complete.
I agree with you on this one. USA Today is NOT a local brand, and what they seem to be branding is using a logo built out of ABS plastic of a product, that you can't tell the thing apart. Also what "sports" event are they promoting? Generic, Generic and Generic branding! HS Football is a huge thing in Texas, and you'd think the morons at Gannett would've at least known more about the state after buying London.
Most Gannett stations and newspapers are integrated into the USA Today product because the states/schools use a backend product called Schedule Star.
AZCentral is by far the largest exception to the USA Today integration in large part because Arizona is not a Schedule Star state. In addition here Gannett has a partnership with MaxPreps, which in turn has a partnership with our state high school association.
That's great technology! The problem is Gannett forgets that these types of sports are so hyperlocal, you cannot treat them as a nation.
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why does 6 need a sports desk? The idea of a sports desk reminds me too much of WSVN. I know almost every station in America is doing it now, but why should everyone do it? How can they do banter with Jim if s/he is in another part of the set or in another studio?
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Apparently Gannett fixed a problem with cutting off ether the open or the last block of news at least on the KHOU stream post switch to the Gannett site. Watched a couple of their newscast last night and was able to see the open and last block/close.
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In my neck of the woods, WBZs Eric Fisher had initially milked the use of the truck. I haven't watched 4's 5 or 6:00 in a while but last October the SUV went up to Mount Washington, NH - 5000 feet above ground in some deep snow. It's been elsewhere in the viewing area. I like their approach. He seems to be the outdoor cat of a weatherman, likes to be out on the field than standing around a chroma wall/103" flat panel.
If you got a Chief meteorologist whose the outdoor cat like him, then it could be put into great use. Not sure Gannett would be able to implement in such effective way.
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The Deathstar and Apple are different, the latter was once ruled by a gutsy CEO, Gannett however as of late can't seem to run their sites effectively. Have not been able to stream some of the ex-Belos running on Presto lately.
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And they're live streaming isn't working either this morning.
Gannett can't seem to make things work right... what else can they f*k up? Anything!
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Going off topic here...
I remember before 10 went to their HD set in 2008, the biggest upgrades before that point was the overhauling of the Earthwatch weather center. They had the big Earthwatch desk. I guess the most telling clip I can find is from an
. The enormity of the weather center was gone though once they went HD. Is it safe to say that the said weather set has been around for about 7-8 years?I just wanted to throw this out there to see if anyone remembers and if they do, maybe they can shed some light into other intricacies that weather center had.
Going off topic here...
I remember before 10 went to their HD set in 2008, the biggest upgrades before that point was the overhauling of the Earthwatch weather center. They had the big Earthwatch desk. I guess the most telling clip I can find is from an
. The enormity of the weather center was gone though once they went HD. Is it safe to say that the said weather set has been around for about 7-8 years?I just wanted to throw this out there to see if anyone remembers and if they do, maybe they can shed some light into other intricacies that weather center had.
Yeah the weather set from before then and what is now has similarities. I'm wondering if it did get cut in some ways and rearranged other parts of it. Their current weather set is kinda neat, it still has some depth with an array of three desks in the shot.
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Wasn't sure if this should be in it's own thread, but this is for you NY brats, former WABC (now WCVB) anchor Phil Lipof is back on the air after being under the weather for having an allergic reaction to an antibiotic. He came back last night to anchor the 11:00 news.
newenglandone.com/news/local-news/item/589-phil-lipof-back-on-wcvb-s-anchor-desk-tonight.html
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[yt]https://www.youtube.com/oC1k9uQ87-4[/yt]
EDIT: Just when I thought I got the hang of linking YouTubes, I apparently posted a "playlist" - Don't cha miss the days when you clicked a link on one's profile you actually got to the video without any bloated JavaScript playlist BS???
I found recent video from HulkieD (err, Matt's) YouTube from WCAU. I don't know if such things have already been said.
- Paging Drop Shadows! Where is it on time/temp bug? It makes it very hard to read.
- I still can't take the off the shelf version of Look F, I felt WCAU's version should had been the official version, because it looks professional. I don't like the serif font that was used in the L&O opens for many years.
- I do love that NBC logo used on the far left L3. The crop and the gradient effects adds appeal.
- And what in the hell is the Digital Operations Center needing to have such long name? Up here WBZ recently started a new shot called the "Sat Center". Isn't it just another ingest room? If I was a microwave signal, I'd sue for on air discrimination! I know this has been around for NBC 10 for at least a year or more, not sure when they got the fancy name and decal used in the taped teases.
- I don't like the use of the open for a stinger going to break. It worked out awesome for the 360 theme (including 2011 Look C had the same idea), but LA Groove wasn't composed with the idea of normal, going to break stingers. Since changing themes - its actually clutter.
I still like the departure of the old NBC 10 News, they still are focusing on the serious news with a personality to it. This is also a NBC owned property, which leads to wondering why can't they in their own news operation (network, sister O&Os, etc.) look up to WCAU? Serious news is a marketable trend, if every station in the country could take notes.
- Paging Drop Shadows! Where is it on time/temp bug? It makes it very hard to read.
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I liked WCAU's set going back to the 2008 launch. It has that Philadelphia feel (small but big city.) I don't know if I mentioned this but I thought WCAU had like 3 big studios dating back to the CBS days and things probably changed over the years. I wonder if the sets will be smaller or studios will be 1 or .5 when they move to Center City in 3 years.
I love that set.
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KHOU still uses that "Stands for Houston" in their current promo, which is more hyperlocal than "The Spirit of Texas" (which, by the way, KHOU phased out late 00/early 10's).
But even if "This is Home" isn't necessarily a hometown creation, for most people, they won't know that, unless they follow the happenings in the industry. It could easily have been created at any station/market. IT just happens to be used in multiple markets, just like the "On Your Side" tag or "Taking Action" or any other cheesy branding line.
I took their current tag was to help reinforce KHOU name in 11 News. The last time it was known as KHOU 11 News was nearly 13/14 years prior to 2011, where it was used from 1989 to 1997. Some of the YouTubes showed how tongue tied the anchors were to say KHOU 11 News again (or ever depending on the talent's tenure) On The Spirit, I am quite surprised it wasn't used in smaller markets or other stations mimicking the format or even use the Texas flag in their graphics - it was the two large markets that was the most patriotic. It's so mindblowing for me (even when it hasn't been used for both stations in ages.) At least KHOU still has the red/white/blue in their graphics/logo now.
Well I do believe there should be some level of standardization, and while those tags could be generic, I wouldn't call it cheesy. It's all how you execute it. If you got a good voice over, good graphics - and other ways to format, you can make lemons (the generic slogans) into kickass lemonade.
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Come later this month, when Scripps installs the standardized graphics/music on WKBW, bringing that station into the 20th century, there will be some that mourn the loss of MCTYW. But WKBW has a terribly antiquated look and sound, so much so that MCTYW's retirement is sorely needed.
Change is a hallmark of the industry. Anomalies like WJZ and WPVI (and WNIR) are exceptions to the rule.
And have we learned how the word "change" has been "changed" for the better or for the worst in the last 5 years (whether way you see it...)
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Sadly the music signature was what was remaining of The Spirit. I won't repeat what was already said of its hyperlocal patriotism that is missing of local TV. It's an utter shame that KHOU/WFAA nixed the image ID.
I am all for tolerance of people's views, I do not like petty attacks such as calling my opposition "childish". I respect others views, and opposites attract a diversity of opinions. If you disagree with me, then just say it instead of acting like a teenager and slandering me as someone who doesn't like change.
Got it?
Thanks
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The only - ONLY - station to have revived a newscast theme due to popular demand... was WPVI in 1996. And they had good reason: NO ONE liked the London Philharmonic Orchestra's rendition of MCTYW.
This is Home isn't bad. It's generic. It's a bit corporate-ish. But there's nothing that garners immediate negative reaction like MCTYW by the London Philharmonic Orchestra did. And honestly, I don't think the majority of viewers to either station are spitting angry that "The Spirit" - a musical signature barely in use for YEARS - got retired.
Your idea is not only impractical, it is impossible and almost childish. No suit from Gannett is going to read posts on FB fan pages for WFAA or KHOU and think, "Ah ha! Let's bring back The Spirit!"
That is not how the world works.
Well then, maybe my part of the world is childish.
We agree to disagree.
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Instead of people bitching about the new graphics and website, people should (and I say should) bitch on WFAA's (and at some point KHOU's) pages demanding they bring back The Spirit. Name drop 615, TM Productions or even Stephen Arnold (and if you like/follow them, then add them into the wall conversation.) Some management are so arrogant they think the viewers are too stupid to know the details about sonic branding, despite said sites have been existent for more than 15 years now.
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Booo! Hissss! I miss The Spirit of Texas. This is Home is NOT for Texas. Only the Spirit belongs.
As a native Texan born and raised in Dallas for almost 30 years, I second that!
Not from Texas, but I'm in touch of my inner Texan - People might be "4 New York*" but I just celebrate The Spirit of Texas.
*the 2nd best local image ID ever behind "The Spirt"
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If you pay attention to the set and the weather center, you could've mistaken this from being a Gannett station back then. It was a little different then what they used, but if I was around longer back in the 80s, I'd hate Gannett the same way I do today. Their mandated high strung red/white/blue set scheme back the 80s was so over the top.
Belo had owned them for about two years and it seems like there was two different branding/looks being used in tandem. Thought The Spirit was used during this time according to the NMSA. I thought this was kinda crazy, anyone know the answer why?