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cbs2newengland

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  1. I wonder when ABC will start pushing the affiliates to not only use the ABC logo, but the larger than life one. I hate the ABC 7 bugs now because both logos are almost as even. WFAA's logo is tacky, but I don't fault them, Belo or Gannett. The logo could be better off alternating the 8 and the ABC logo and do like a spin effect.
  2. I mentioned the Twitter followers of TVNT earlier. In anyway its just another set of eyes monitoring the news business.
  3. anything happing in NY that would be special to have the weekday crew?
  4. wow - that's really a curveball, a launch at five on a weekend?
  5. Well if so goes WFAA, what about KHOU? They've owned them for ages and Houston is just as a fast growing market too. I thought they were Belo's second baby, also in terms of favoritism.
  6. That part kinda makes me paranoid. It's with any site. Omnibars kinda suck in one way when you want to call up a vintage video on YouTube to then go on the station's site and who knows if the station can see all my other tabs... My question I put out was just for general practice, whether or not it's a good idea to hotlink content from a station. I wasn't saying whether or not we should advertise TVNT and the subject matters. IMO, the cat has gone out of its bag starting with other list-serves before TVNT and if anything, the stations should be flattered, since there are more news geeks then before. Never mind they got much more priorities to be concerned especially in the age of declining newsrooms and move to automation *coughs* and other things that impacts a modern newsgathering op.
  7. Hey all, I haven't had the chance to visit in the last few days, only had 5 minutes here and there. It took me years to grow to liking the Rampage theme, I someone here years back compared it to a "broken fax machine." The Rampage theme at the time kinda got rid of the already mentioned legacy brandings of Denver, Portland, Cinci and Atlanta. All (except for Portland - since Good News was already dated) had some really decent themes. If anything Gannett should've worked with Third Street to compose, since they were known well for the KUSA and KARE 11 music. I could go on... Yes, in these types of discussions, theres no science, its just the ear of the beholder, you know! To be quite honest, I think The Spirt would sound horrifically with TIH. I can't imagine the The Sprit with such melody of TIH. TIH's cuts are very tight, less than 5 seconds on opens, so they would also have to be really spiffy. The writing was obviously on the wall after the Belo deal was announced, it was only a matter of time TIH and everything else would get pushed out. As I said before, may the best local image ID campaign known as The Spirit of Texas rest in peace. For many years I had associated that with WFAA, but now I give KHOU more credit because they had incorporated the Lone Star Flag into their graphics. Seems to be of all TX markets, Houston in the last 2 decades seemed to be more patriotic in the imaging. I'll admit I give TIH a bad name. But you're description of "one-size-fits-all" is the reason why TIH fails for the most part. Read my earlier reply with the need to be spiffy. On Stephen Arnold though, maybe Gannett should go to him for the next gen theme. I wasn't even a fan of his work till a few years ago, now I have a lot of respect of his work. Didn't KNSD use that "Straight Talk, Straight Facts, Straight to You" campaign too? About time that ISDN-BRI like connection was abandoned, should've been gone years back. So 1995.
  8. I would question the appropriateness of hotlinking to a station's news content from TVNT. I don't know if there has been legal history with this site, and I know stations follow TVNT on Twitter, but just like RTs, followers - don't = to endorsements.
  9. even if they add a signature; it still would be classified under my Worst News Themes To Exist. Even with the legacy sound, it would quickly be diluted with the casual, non professional sound that TIH is known for (at least for my ears.)
  10. What music was used for WCBS' end of year promo for Channel 2 News in 1992? It has a nice melody given that year had deep stories in the news.
  11. General discussion on the graphics: what is the timeline from when they get a call (or email) from Denver to when the graphics go to air? How much collaboration between the local CS crew and the G3C peeps? I've seen the tweets about webinars for the producers, and stuff. And since they push 16:9 for all, I bet equipment had to be replaced. I read a comment on YT that Gannett was pushing strict deadlines, but I'm betting that was heresy. I'm interested if someone has a general knowledge of these things.
  12. I was watching it on my iPhone and thought my phone + A/C (yeah its hawt up here) was the problem. But I think you're right. One of my major complaints (since the beginning) was the names, I don't like how the headline shrinks to add the name then disappear and expand, it should show the name only then go back to the headline. I still think the most left story is the current one. I think the story is highlighted, it would be easier to follow, but rundowns is for internal use or if you want to watch a dumbed down ESPN show like SC. I don't like the idea the headlines crawl one story at a time. I'll have to take a moment to listen. I'd be surprised if that is the case. I know this might be an overblown thought, but I wonder how the long time audio ops or CS team at both stations are handling the Gari music. Belo never used Gari music before. I know these people are pros, but it's worth noting somewhat.
  13. Today (assuming) at noon, KHOU launched the new graphics. I caught the open, Bill Ratner voiced over the "Standing for Houston". The TIH theme is on the dramatic side. I don't think they did a package on the new graphics on their noon broadcast. I watched a little because i was getting motion sickness with the spinning stingers. Ok, that was dramatic on my part. It was really annoying if that. I'd be betting that TIH for the tagline will be limited if not used at all. From knowing the station, it seems they put a vested interest in the "Standing for Houston" - they used it for a few years now; and their CSD's YouTube is active with promos with "Standing for" whatever thing is going in their town. Dare to mention "list" so is KHOU the last original Belo station to get the on air change?
  14. For me its more of a sad day for that group. Belo from what I know was in big markets, they had some nice assets, but they weren't cheap like a Raycom or a Sinclair, I could be wrong. They had loyalty to their stations. The 2012 graphics and the V 2. of Propulsion had a nice uniqueness to a group level. I'm not that big "all local" kinda guy, but that corporate mandate had sex appeal, substance and quality that for affiliate groups is missing. Another thing about Gannett mandates is the theme music. Not saying Gari is bad, I like his firm's music, but TIH isn't the strongest, isn't adaptable to the market, and it doesn't shout local like Houston or Dallas or Denver. It's more of a common tagline for the company's goal for their employees being broadcast to their viewers. Again its worth repeating, but I've always admired The Spirit of Texas - I find that being above " We're 4 New York" campaign (even though I love the NY market mind you.) Seeing that Lone Star flying into the open for KHOU or seeing the words in WFAA's open. To me that was effective branding. Seemed like both stations started to downgrade the tagline a decade ago but kept the signature in their themes. Now KHOU will be the last by noon on Wednesday. You can thank Gannett for that.
  15. Why would they cut KHOU? It's a top 10 market, oh wait they've been cutting at WUSA , another top 10 market. One newscast I had watched recently made me feel like I was trapped in a time warp where they did kinda the same thing in the 80s, rare live shots and in studio reports. The cuts and additional responsibility of producers reminds me similar to WNBC. And we know how that worked...
  16. I read a comment on YouTube in the beginning of the year something like there was supposed to be tight deadlines to implementing the new graphics. Anyways since that station has been brought back to the discussion, its now been 3+ years they have used Propulsion V 2., which sounds lot better than V. 1 and kicks TIH's ass by 10 times, if you asked me. I've put it in the same kick ass class as WCAU's NBC O&O theme which only lasted 2.5 or so years, and that same class that's known to have a short shelf life, at least Propulsion V2/KHOU still is using it. It's just my own opinion.
  17. I saw one of their newscasts a week or so ago, looks like they are at a snail's pace, if you do not like the graphics - then its still good news if you like the Belo package.
  18. coming from a guy in a small market himself, love that Same thing could be said if you heard that in a large market.
  19. I agree with rkolsen on this one, to me the evidence that there had been some level of complacency to have this apparent perception. Mickey Mouse doesn't care because even if 6 does go down in the ratings, advertisers are buying the brand name of WPVI (much like how CBS' WBZ didn't loose on advertising values when 4 was in the ratings basement a decade ago) and I wouldn't suspect that from happening. I'm trying to stay realistic, but I do think its only a matter of time when 10 will break the long time record for WPVI. However I think 6 needs to step up their game on their community relations, I can't speak for the control room, but maybe you came in during a live broadcast where they can't really talk (even during commercial breaks) and given Ignite rooms requiring just one or two people now, the problem is that person must be focused at all times during the newscast.
  20. I thought the Gannett look even extended into the Chyron or Vidifont, whatever KHOU was using at that time. Many Gannett stations were using a serif/typewriter like font.
  21. I guess ether I am not getting my point across or others aren't getting my point. I find it newsworthy because a) its a new owner, b ) I don't care if its a no story to you, I think it has some news value and c ) the Belo deal happened in 2013, so you could still say "if this reminds you of USA Today, that's because our parent company who publishes them" at least the native stations did that last year. Now that Carl Icahn is getting his way bullying the Gannett BOD, this type of blurb doesn't make much sense, but at least WFAA and KENS could've just slipped a couple extra words from the original 2013 "must report" copy, if that is true. IMO you can simply the story without getting technical, but the viewers should at least know something than nothing.
  22. If you pay attention to the set and the weather center, you could've mistaken this from being a Gannett station back then. It was a little different then what they used, but if I was around longer back in the 80s, I'd hate Gannett the same way I do today. Their mandated high strung red/white/blue set scheme back the 80s was so over the top. Belo had owned them for about two years and it seems like there was two different branding/looks being used in tandem. Thought The Spirit was used during this time according to the NMSA. I thought this was kinda crazy, anyone know the answer why?
  23. then that would make sense why they didn't say "new owners", back to an earlier rant of mine re to the package about on the new graphics.
  24. Or is it the affiliates that downconvert (letterbox) the signal from the station?
  25. the package that WCBS ran at noon in an earlier link got me teary eyed. again, my condolences.
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