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    Then KSDK must not know how to take the L3 down while leaving the rundown up. Or their director is coding the show wrong. Because at KENS, they can do both.

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    Most of the time during the story, they usually just leave the lower third up. They only take it down during the weather or teases.

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    is everything done in production control? I don't know about Gannett's package if elements (like time/temp and crawl) is done at master or done on another engine in production.
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    Actually they switched in June of '11 coinciding with when they refreshed Look C.

     

    the 2012 Super Bowl introduced the infamous (to a lot of fanfare) Look F.

     

    In fact the cuts they used sounded a little different than in the Look C, the pitch sounds a little different.

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    Part of the problem lies with the fact that Rosie wants to do the show her way. She wants to be the moderator and have the show revolve around Rosie. She really is not interested in talking politics or reality/pop culture topics. If she were in charge, The View would be arts & crafts, discussions on social issues and some current events and celebrity interviews. The show has become unbearable as you have Whoopi constantly being negative- almost like she is doing it on purpose to piss Rosie O. off. NIcolle seems intimidated by Rosie, she has gotten better about voicing her point of view but Rosie often cuts her off. I really think that they should do better once O'Donnell is off the show.

     

    She's way too progressive.

     

    I'm talking about the set. Remember her backstab about the original set that looked like a grandmother's living room? In fact the set was the good ole days of watching The View from a male POV. They really did talk about girl issues, and the politics was always half an A-block, it was part of the larger discussion, not the other way around.

     

    Ever since the set change, I hated the stage setup. It looks like a Broadway without the musical or a daily drama performance. A canned presentation of people fighting over the dinner table, just the difference is this show is set up with cameras and a satellite dish. The curtains on the set should shutter going to break!

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    http://www.360musicproduction.com/nbcono/

     

    The way Arnold/Chad Cook produces packages it wouldn't surprise me if the number of cuts in this package pushes 500. There's 5 different main themes and like 10 other franchise themes all with numerous submixes. WCAU only ever edited together the original cut they used for a bump. The theme they used/are using is a min long.

     

    Now you mentioned it, I shouldn't be surprised.

     

    Then I say to myself how many ways you can make a package sound so great. Then I realize many cuts are less than a few seconds to less than a minute.

     

    LA Groove (sounding like broken record) just didn't fit the vibe of the new NBC 10. The recent years went to a very kick***, fast paced, driving force to its news delivery. Also the substance of the news (which every station should still look up to 10 for) also fit with the style of the theme, believe it or not. KHOU's V2 of Propulsion fits into this description to a lesser extent. Going showtunes ruined the entire vibe of delivering the news.

     

    Arnold isn't kidding when a stations ratings can be impacted up to 15% because of sonic branding news music. The times I would see 10 with LA Groove, I wouldn't stay on it for long. The music would make me go mellow or fall asleep. You loose connection to the viewers.

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    Yup (sorta. They're using a stripped version this time with the full theme unlike that loop they used before). We talked about it in the No Emotion Box earlier this week. I hope they bring it back in earnest with a few changes in cut selection.

     

    I don't know how many cuts that package has between the WCAU and KNSD themes, but the cuts WCAU had used seemed to be a long cut that was used for opens, bumps and to close the program out. With the help of some audio manipulating apps, they probably made the cuts appear to be longer than the original cut.

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    Cedar Rapids news from 1993, begins with a KGAN TVbD open with Real News.

     

     

     

    The still is laughable: that screen is so tacky with the "bug" being painted on the chroma screen. I guess they were too cheap to allow the CG to place a digital bug on that screen instead.

  7. tickers were fun for morning shows (and prior to 9/11) when a CG operator had to manually enter stories. One sentence or two with a semicolon split. Now with news being ripped off via RSS wires, there is no requirement of needing to write spiffy and quick stories. Just ask the people who run the ticker at the Fox News Channel. That to me is more annoying. Gannett's look was and always been busy for the viewer that isn't loyal to their newscast as say a competitor.

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    KUSA has been using these updated lower thirds. I think they debuted this week, though I don't watch every newscast in town everyday like my former crazed self, so I can't be sure when. Everything also slides up a line when they turn on the ticker beneath the rundown. There's also a little bit of animation to that new blue stroke in the bug.

     

    I like that they take up less space, though since none of the other graphics were updated, these lower thirds are misaligned with everything else, which can look messy, especially in the double boxes.

     

    Has any other Gannett station adopted these? If not, this is probably the first time KUSA has gotten anything new graphics-wise before any other station.

     

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    about time they updated it, because I like the time temp location and the live bug looks bigger. But it seems like the crawl has been axed, so will there be crawlspace when others get the change?

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    I'm not sure of the specifics. TM did the music production, TM put together the promotional campaign (it was more than just music, if you can recall), TM syndicated it. And WFAA still has the trademark on "The Spirit of Texas" for TV promotion use.

     

    But Kirk may well still own the underlying musical composition - he was co-credited on the copyright registration for the KATU "Spirit" theme. Again, good thing for me to ask him.

     

    I associated it as TM, but regardless I'm ripping the audio to expand my Spirit of Texas playlist! :)

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    Jim Kirk composed the Spirit of Texas music for TM. While the BMI entry only says "Additional Nom-BMI Publishers", I know that the copyright registration is to Kirk himself - no mention of TM.

     

    Kirk worked with TM, at some points in time I think he was actually employed by TM, but at other times he was freelance/independent. (The WWL 1984 theme, from the info I obtained when ASCAP still had a listing for it, seemed to be Kirk by himself - no mention of TM. Though now that the original package it was based on is confirmed to be TM, I wonder if maybe the '84 package was still done by Kirk for TM. I should ask...)

     

    Did he own the rights and TM just was the marketing agent?

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    Jim Kirk of Corporate Magic has uploaded a clean version of the WFAA 1987 news intro using TM's "Spirit of Texas" news music package. And, you can also check out more of his videos containing mostly elements from corporate events and a demo.

     

    So whats the connection to TM Productions* then? I thought they were the composers of The Spirit (of) package.

     

    *EDIT: They are out of business, I thought they were still around.

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    That reminds me of how there is absolutely no footage out there of the theme KCBS used in 1987-88*, after the "parallelogram logo/L.A. CGI flyover" and electronic theme (latest known video: January 1987) and before "Action 2 News" and the "I Love Chicago"-based VTS package (earliest known video: December 1988).

     

    Sure, NMSA has a ton of audio of it, but I still have no idea what the accompanying graphics/set/anything looked like. In the EIGHT years I've browsed YouTube, I've never found any news footage from KCBS between Jan. '87-Dec. '88. Why such a huge gap?

     

    *NMSA says it went from 1986-88, but all clips I've ever seen from 1986 and into Jan. '87 have the previous theme/look, making me think it actually started some time in '87.

     

    KCBS was a cursed station, they kept redoing the newscast in the 80s. They seemed to settle down by 1990 or whatever the time they used the WTEN/KCBS theme.

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    I seem to recall years ago a website that had photos of the minutes leading up to Ron Magers & Carol Marin's on-air resignation. Iirc, in one of the photos, was a shot into the newsroom with one of cityscape panels in place.

     

    It seemed to me they might be hidden in the half wall the separated the desk from the newsroom, or could be installed or un-installed between shows.

     

    I also recall at one point seeing the video of the on-air resignation at the end of the 10pm and the newsroom was open (and at the point they signed off - for good - people in the newsroom began clapping.

     

    I remember that clip being posted on YouTube actually.

     

    Their newsroom has been modified significantly (and probably remodeled) over the years. While the newsroom is 25 years old, the newsroom prior to the studio change, looked pretty current.

  14. Is there any video that's on the web or people have in their collections from WCBS in 1992? It seems like there is every era of IDs, graphics, full or partial newscasts, promos and opens to every newscast except for the said year. I've mentioned in the past that was an underrated look both the graphics/theme music. And it lasted for less than a year. They started using the theme like in February and it seemed by early January the theme, the 8 year old set and graphics went into the dumpster at the W 57th building. I'd love to see more of it.

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    Wally Wawro, who was Director of Creative Services at WFAA in the 80s/90s, referenced it on another forum:

     

    " We went in a different direction with some "consultant driven" news package in 1992 or so (that sucked beyond belief) "

     

    But he didn't say who did it. When I PMed him about it, he said he thought he had a DAT copy which would have identified the composer, but that he really didn't want to think about that package. (It's clear that he really, really didn't like it.)

     

    that's too bad, I thought that was a pretty awesome theme, that went well with the graphics at the time. I hope he didn't throw away the master tape, but I'm not a Texan or from the DFW area, so I don't know the whole back story.

     

    Although they had to make some change because The Spirit was sounding dated at that time, and it didn't look right since the graphics actually launched before the theme change (and it looked so ahead of its time too.)

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    Here's an interesting tidbit of information: Comcast's website lists in December they have to renegotiate the carriage of Telemundo's delayed feed that's carried on their Hispanic tier. I wonder why they have to renegotiate carriage with their own broadcast networks?

     

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/learn/programming/

     

    isn't because the pipeline (xfinity) is a different business unit as content/networks (NBCU) and Comcast has become just a holding name of the two properties? I have to think it was part of the provision of the FCC terms of the deal 4 years ago.

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