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WNYW Fox 5 News Director Byron Harmon is leaving at the end of April.
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1 hour ago, Rusty Muck said:
Contrary to the majority opinion in the fandom, I really don't think anyone but news nerds care about superficial things like that. They care if the news is treated like a joke or slathered with 3D graphics, dated music and trapped in amber since 1995.
Spoken like an executive out of touch with the audience. You'll be surprised at what the audience actually knows about the stations ins and outs. You have a segment of the audience that a hardcore fans of everything about the station. If WABC or KABC ever dropped Eyewitness News-wonder what would be the take on this board, but the audience would definitely have something to say a well too!
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3 hours ago, ns8401 said:
If you tweak the name and leave the product exactly the same or nearly so… will anybody notice? That’s what I think they are up to.
People always notice that funny part thinking they will forget. People will always remember. People were upset when WXIA dumped 11Alive moniker in the 90s.
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7 hours ago, nycnewsjunkie said:
I know you probably don’t mean it this way, but this comes off a bit ageist to me. Chuck is willing to work, NBC is willing to have him work, the viewers love him, and he’s still good at what he does, so I don’t see any reason for him to stop just because he’s old. It’s not as though he’s impeding younger journalists from greater opportunities. Besides, David Ushery and Natalie Pasquarella are the primary anchors there now, and if anything, having someone like Chuck in your newsroom to mentor younger journalists is an asset, not a liability.
As far as Dana’s concerned, I’ve never met her, so I can’t speak to what others have said about her. Some people talk about her being supposedly difficult to work with, others have nothing but great things to say about her. That said, she was a good anchor who did her job well for decades, and I think she deserved acknowledgment for that. Ideally, one could argue she should’ve been given a bigger sendoff, but considering the nature of the TV news business, I’m glad she was given any sort of sendoff at all.
I hate to say this, but the poster does have a point. Yes, there's alot of ageism goes on in many work industries. Television news is no exception either. Chuck, still might be spry, but Sue Simmons got the boot and he didn't is very telling. Sue a year older than Chuck, and he still get to anchor one newscast where her contract wasn't renewed. Chuck and Sue were an institution together on WNBC and a pillar in NYC area, but he should of been ushered out along with Sue. The question is why? Was it because he was a man? Again, their age only separates them a year apart.
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2 hours ago, bmasters1 said:
Just looked that up on Scott Kimmell's site under "Old Newscast Titles," and that bears you out-- quite honestly though, never knew they had been 10TV News that long.
Oh they've been dropped Eyewitness News back in 2007, but WWL did dropped it under TEGNA but not WBNS-they were still family owned.
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CNN of 1992
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2 hours ago, Abraham J. Simpson said:
Number one among….three broadcast soaps? That isn’t exactly an achievement.
It been #1since 1988 where at the time it was 13 shows. You might wanna look at it in a different way.
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2 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said:
How is Pittsburgh doing these days? Even though the newscast is pumping out the same garbage that all the other CBS markets are, they're allowed to use the ugly black and yellow to cater to the "Stillers" fans, and probably get a lot more traction by doing so!
Running away #1 12,4,5,6,11pm news. WTAE #1 in the morning. WTAE & WPXI fight for #2 and sometimes one out do the other in different parts of the day. ABC seems to have a weak lead-in into11pm so 11 usually beats 4 at 11pm.
2 hours ago, bmasters1 said:Which is why KCNC should really be called CBS News Denver, IMO (and KTVT of the Metroplex should be called CBS News DFW, instead of CBS News Texas).
Both those branding names are trash! CBS11 was good for KTVT. CBS4 was standard, but seem to have a better branding during their NBC days.
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On 2/21/2024 at 7:14 PM, newscopter7 said:
CBS O&Os that were formerly Group W stations tend to outperform their CBS peers. While WCBS seems to have stabilized over the past few years, WBBM is blown up every few years in favor of the next best thing that will turn things around and in LA they threw in the towel on KCBS in favor of KCAL.
It sad how KCBS got dumped on. The 2nd largest market and the CBS affiliate seems to be non existing.
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20 minutes ago, HSV cheesehead said:
You can partially give the New World-FOX partnership/merger the blame for all of this too.
Additionally, before WAGA was bought by/transferred to FOX in the 1994-96 realignment, it was arguably one of their stronger affiliates. Notably it is also the only station in Atlanta that currently has a chance at surpassing the almighty WSB-TV. Same goes for the prior affiliates in Detroit, Milwaukee, etc.
New World must have run their stations well because the majority of them continue to maintain strong viewership. This time period also coincides with when CBS began to see declining ratings as a whole.
Also during realignment CBS had to affiliate with small unheard of channels with relatively high channel numbers, and in many cases the news room was built from scratch.
There were times where WAGA did beat WSB in the 70s, 80s and 90s before the switch. There were times WXIA beat both WSB & WAGA at 11pm due to NBC primetime lead in the late 80s and early 90s.
When the 80s came around in the bigger markets NBC & ABC just changed with the times. CBS hasn't fared well in the bigger markets, but NBC & ABC does really well. CBS does well in mid size, smaller and rural markets. Prior to the switch in the 90s. Atlanta, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Dallas, Phoenix & Tampa Bay those CBS affiliates did really well.
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On 2/10/2024 at 10:05 PM, tyrannical bastard said:
Speaking of WBNS, Tegna has appointed Rick Rogala as their GM, coming from WATN and WLMT in Memphis.
https://tvnewscheck.com/business/article/rick-rogala-named-gm-of-wbns-columbus/
Media General had hired him as the GM at WCMH during their ownership, I'm not sure if he lasted into the transition with Nexstar. But prior to WCMH, he had worked for KARK under Nexstar.
I wonder where John Cardenas is going?
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On 1/8/2024 at 3:23 PM, ATLNewsExpert said:
And here is that Falcon's transition.
And here is the new OTS shot.
And the new teaser graphics without L3's (they only use the L3's before each newscast, like in the last package.
Also this is the first time, at least in my memory, that the time and temp bug has been on the left side, as it, every package since the launch of HD, has been on the right.
Exactly! It always been on the other side going back to the 90s. It a shocked to see it on the left side. WSB moves slowly on change.
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WNCN NBC 17 in 1996
KSTP & WCCO in 1994
KXTV News 10 2004
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2 hours ago, MediaZone4K said:
*Network executives keep soely pointing to (rather saying blame) shifts in viweing habits without recognizing bad writing plays a role.
If you look at the trend of when viewers
started leaving soaps--the mid 90s--that's when alot of bad writing trends began, in addition to the OJ trial, shifting viewing habits, etc.
"If there was some magic formula for success and a profitable bottom line, someone would be trying it. Millions upon millions of dollars overall are at stake, people's jobs are at stake. No one is just sitting around ordering up another hour from the news division on a whim or so they can get out the door in time to make it to happy hour." --- I would like to belive that, but it's clear, whatever sells milk it.
We see it in the movies with heavily recycled franchises and now we see it on tv with news.
Not to stray too off topic but As for soaps, they don't have to be five days weekly. They've locked themselves into that model. As we can see having one hour content five days a week is an expensive model that is collapsing. If they did Y&R monday to wed and one hour B&B Thu/Fri that *might* work. You are absolutely right, tastes do change, but the appetite for serialized drama is still there as we see with streaming. Y&R just got a ratings bump from bringing back old characters showing that there is still an interest (the demo is a different story
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All in all, the worse programing gets the viewers that remain will also turn away and networks heads will still point to streaming as the only reason they can't pull an audience. Just like cable execs keep citing cord cutting as the only reason for it's collapse without acknowledging the loss of niche programming and poor content.
NBC News Daily is just symptomatic of a larger programming issue. We saw it with the over proliferation of soaps, talk shows, and cable dramas. The bubble burst and the same is likely to happen for news.
Your're right the appetite is there for serialized drama, and the reality shows have become the new serialized drama. You have a house or different events as the set. You have the drama. Maybe FOX would have a type of reality show as the new daytime drama. Plus game shows was once a hot commodity as well too. The audience is going to hate to see news on daily. Give em something different than news. When your local news comes on at 3pm/4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11pm. The audience is going to feel burned out and will turn you off.
13 hours ago, Abraham J. Simpson said:Facts aren't blame, really. Some things just are. And there isn't always a unicorn out there, "if only" someone spent more or wrote better or whatever. People were leaving soaps for long time. Then gas tanks almost empty there; throwing more money at a dying genre is pointless. Its not blame to say key audiences in 2023 aren't the same as in 1983.
It's also overly broad to just label all news division programming with one brush. It struck me on a recent NY visit to the NBC store the distinct merchandise for the third and fourth hours of Today. There is, of course, the main show umbrella, but the other hours are treated as somewhat unique entities. The content isn't identical, and that is typically true at the local level as well. There's a whole thread here somewhere about how the 10 am hour on WABC is noticeably different from the other newscasts, and even among more traditional newscasts, tonality varies.
If there was some magic formula for success and a profitable bottom line, someone would be trying it. Millions upon millions of dollars overall are at stake, people's jobs are at stake. No one is just sitting around ordering up another hour from the news division on a whim or so they can get out the door in time to make it to happy hour.
You have a population segment that gravitates toward the likes of Maury and Springer. Some that like the Kelly and Mark or Kelly Clarkson type shows. Some who can't get enough court shows. And then there are a bajillion streaming options, sports galore, cable channels with movies out the wazoo, dramas, sitcoms, etc. That pie has been sliced six ways from Sunday. It's easy to say "do something different." It's much harder to actually find that "something" that delivers the profits it needs to.
This is really interesting. Cutting back from 5 days is one thing, but that is a guarantee you're off the broadcast network. You're not getting a three-day a week slot (or whatever) there. But to the point of less characters and sets...from what I saw of those days seeing Y&R, there were very few characters. Generally the same old actors from before and a few seemingly disposable new ones--generally offspring or other relatives--and that's it. Two or three people to a storyline being told that day, and maybe 2 or 3 storylines being covered max. Even then, the characters seemed to them mix and match among scenes, so you really weren't getting more actors, they just shuffled among the sets and fellow castmates in some kind of weird, soapy square dance. Also didn't count many sets. At least a half dozen over that span looked pretty much like they did years ago. I'm assuming they got some fresh paint here and there. The others looked like SNL skit sets--in that they could easily be repurposed with minimal effort to become something else generic for limited use.
Of course, casts and crew cost money, so I am not literal when I say this, but I have to wonder where the money is going. It isn't into the product. And I know the soaps were never high production value. They were cheesier than cheesy. Always. But it looks like they're down to fumes, and that makes sense. Tastes change.
There some strong points you made here and there. With the last (2) Proctor Gamble shows they were looking at changing the model from 5 days a week. There was some buzz about that . PG wanted out the soap business and they did in 2009/10. Yes, it cost $50 million dollars a year to produce a serialized drama, because in 2008 YR licensing fees were up and many elder cast had to take paycuts. There were some actors who were cut too, because of CBS slashing the licensing fees. Being #1 comes with alot of baggage too.
You say that the sets are cheap maybe in the 70s, but the shows creator was very instrumental in the show being lush. In the 80s they would have real champagne, fresh flowers and they have a huge production values. Many crew members talks about how they use certain lighting and they have been lauded over the shows production values.
All My Children, ABC thought moving the show to Los Angeles the show would come under budget, but it was over budget. While One Life was the read-headed step-child that was always come under budget. (Depending on who you asked many would say One Life should of been the one to move to LA) General Hospital is and always been ABC's crown jewel. Guiding Light was moved out of their NYC CBS studio to New Jersey, to try a new model with outdoor filming. The executive producer at the time was trying to save the show. Soap producers live in a bubble, and when budgets have been cut they make do with what they have.
Soaps at one time was a cash cow for networks and the money was so big during the 70s up to the 90s. The money the soaps made for the network help fund many primetime pilots/shows. Nobody had a crystal ball to see how television/ technology+the internet would change the way people watched their shows, news, sports etc. Yes, at the end of the day it does come down to economics. NBC/Corday Productions/Sony had a deal on their last cycle that Days would transition from NBC broadcast to NBC streaming Peacock. Days has become very popular on Peacock and has been renewed til 2025 which would make it to the shows 60th year.
Seeing YR/Bold probably having a (2 year pick-up and that my opinion) The last cycle was a 4 year pick-up, and probably Sony & (The Bells- the children own Bold outright.) would probably move the show to Paramount Plus. Again, I'm speculating, because YR has a bigger budget than Days and the model that Sony has now with YR. Where the current head-writer is also/ the breakdown writer /and EP. Sony wanted that same model for Days, and the folks at Days pushed back on that.
Sometime next year YR /Bold going to have to make some cuts for CBS to pay for those licensing fees. ABC owns General Hospital outright and with Bob Iger trying to find out
what he wants Disney to do with ABC. I can see General Hospital moving over to hulu full-time.
(as Jamey Giddens once said on daytimeconfidental.com podcast a decade and half ago that YR & General Hospital would be the last two standing.) If they both can make it 2025-2026. What a feat that would be..
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On 12/9/2023 at 5:21 PM, TVNewsStan said:
Lurking for a minute on this post and decided to throw my change in the bucket:
I think the moment Kate Snow announced prior to launch that Daily wouldn’t be an “opinion show,” I was on board.
It’s very old school CNN Headline News(or OG CBSN with a better budget), something I feel the daypart has desperately needed for about a decade since it opted to slowly phase out of a lineup of serials. I’m one of those “four hours of news” junkies… doesn’t suck for me. It makes the workday go by faster, I catch great health and lifestyle segments, and I’m more curious to research news after hearing their take.
I usually autopilot on streaming at work(or WFH) because it’s softer around the desk than music, I like following any real breaking news that comes up(ex. Mitch McConnell’s freezing spells), and they do a good job of keeping it straight with very little fluff. I think entertainment talk shows and even serials are great, but there’s only so much you can do with those in 2023 and in the case of the serial, the networks aren’t making huge profit margins from shows they don’t own. Local stations are seeing a desert of new syndicated options and aren’t willing to pay high licensing fees for anything that can’t sell ads.
I agree with whoever said the Daily Team should only be in charge of network special reports during those hours. I’m a CBS News guy, so I usually flip to Norah if Lester Holt pops up on my screen.
I have no doubt because of Daily’s success that CW(infrastructure in place thanks to NewsNation and their abundance of local affiliates) and CBS(by shuffling Y&R out of 12/12:30AM if they even keep it past 2024) will want to foray into afternoon news at some point. Let’s hope they’re taking notes from NBC on how to do it right.
I will tell you there are alot of fans out here who don't want to see their Serials go. It may not have the big numbers it once had. YR is still #1 and is CBS star line-up.
YR contract is up next Sept 2024. When Sony negotiate with CBS for maybe another year or two. CBS News isn't going to pull in 3.5 million that YR is pulling. Bold/YR depending on The Bell Children (The Bells own Bold outright) probably by 2026 would move into CBS/Paramount streaming platform. Here the thing YR/Bold make $$$ overseas. ABC owns General Hospital outright, and many fans out here aren't into news 24/7. People like to be entertained, and if they want news they will find it. I'm a news junkie too, but I also like a balance with entertainment shows.
The networks have to look at their audience and there's an audience who still like escapism. CBS/NBC/ABC it just can't be news 24/7. People aren't going to watch The 8th hour of Today or the 5th hour of GMA. CBS News doesn't have the cache like the other two networks.
CBS has been able to find other niche than news and has an older audience, but there has to be a balance. 24/7 News runs on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and many other cable news outlets. There are many executives who want to keep the daytime audience mean and lean and find some shows that going to get eyeballs.
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Pat Warren of WJZ has passed away.
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WTMJ Carole Meekins to retire end of the month.
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CBS Evening News with Dan Rather & Connie Chung 1993
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WNYW Fox 5 News Director Byron Harmon is leaving at the end of April.
https://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2024/4/21/nd-out-in-nyc