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These have been around for a few years (Here they are in March 2015) and are not related to the new Scripps graphics.

I think my biggest problem with these graphics is that the lower thirds are using the old Facebook logo that was replaced months ago. Dear Scripps Graphics Hub: The Facebook app logo is now circular. Everyone wanted Scripps to get new graphics. Well, here you go. This is the style that's popular right now. I wouldn't expect many changes to these as it rolls out across the rest of their stations.

Hello everyone! It's that time of the year again, when local news begins to see preemptions for holiday-themed programming. Traditionally, this site eventually ends up taking part in the ever-festive tradition of creating lists of what your local station is airing on a given holiday. And as is tradition, I am here to remind you of the no lists rule and how it applies here. Basically, you are welcome to discuss (a basic list is not good enough) stations special local (or in some cases, regional) programming. I know in some markets, local programming will preempt network specials. That is also fair game to mention. What is NOT fair game, and what we don't want to see, is posts that tell us what we already know: There will be big parades, there will be sports, and those air nationally, so EVERYONE is affected by them. YES, we get it, there will be no evening news on CBS in Fargo because of a football game, just like there won't be evening news on CBS in Chicago, or Dallas, or Cadillac, MI because of the same game. To summarize: Tell me something I don't know! Good: Not good: Feel free to ask questions below! -The Management

Well, there's a new set in the new studio, and new cameras and a Tricaster too. And actual studio lights. A big improvement. Now maybe they can focus on improving the content of the programming.

The last couple O&O looks (from 2010 onward) were all done mostly in-house ("Blue Helio"/Linear Drift/whatever he's going by these days was only called in to work on some 3D animation on this current one) by WCBS, and distributed to the other group members. Most stations in the group are on Chyron, but a handful (off the top of my head: WBBM and KCBS/KCAL) are on VizRT. I believe they just kind of share the CG system files among themselves as needed. Other art assets are distributed among the group, and it's left up to the station's in-house artists to implement them. Most stations have different monitor graphic templates to fill out, so they'll take the source files that, say, WBBM sends out and modify them to their needs. A lot of hubbed groups don't do this, and instead stations will get generic monitor graphic templates customized for a particular monitor configuration that will display the hub's preferred formats. Scripps does a lot of this, since their graphics style guide calls for three image formats that everything must fit within: 3x3, 4x3, and 16x9. I have heard rumors in the past of CBS wanting to hub graphics properly (along with another O&O station group (since CBS is one of two not already hubbed, it shouldn't be hard to figure out which)), but there apparently hasn't been much movement, probably because of the Viacom thing. Better to blame it on the new corporate overlords!

Good Day Sacramento uses graphics that don't look like the O&O package on purpose. They don't want it to look like the news graphics because it's not really a news broadcast. It's a morning show with news.

When are these stations going to stop it with this "virtual set that looks like a real set" nonsense? You have VR and can do ANYTHING, why have this bland, cliche junk that looks like some movie's interpretation of what a local news set looks like?

If only this site had some sort of analog back then. "Looks like Westinghouse-itis is rolling out across more stations with their WHYwitness format. 90 minutes? Please. I liked it better when the news was one person sitting at a desk for 15 minutes. We were lucky to have any pictures at all!" "Group W out with another lame logo... So much for individuality! Could they only afford one sheet of Letraset?

A "dead mall" enthusiast managed to "rescue" a cache of VHS tapes from the management offices of Milwaukee's abandoned Northridge Mall, among which was an entire episode of PM Magazine from WISN, circa Christmas Eve 1981: Featuring all the original commercials, including a holiday-themed "My mom dressed me funny because of John Malan" and the holiday version of "Hello Milwaukee".

You're right. History will show WPIX was so much better under Tribune. PIX never looked better than when they were broadcasting their 10PM from this messy corner of the newsroom. That classic late 2010 set and graphics package from when Bill Carey blew up the 10pm news. Who can forget the giant green "iPad graphics", Mr. G's weather closet, and all the great commentary and round table discussions with Lionel and Larry Mendte. Hard-hitting news like this, And of course the seemingly daily "investigation" into the MTA. We're lucky to not have any good videos of the first weeks of this disaster. Even two years later, it was still a giant mess. About the only thing Scripps could possibly do to the station that Tribune didn't already try is to burn the place down for the insurance money, though with all those cheap extension cords in the lighting grid, it sure looks like they might have been trying.

Complaints might get all the way into the double digits.

All WKYC Circle 3 discussion has been moved to this thread. Please take all discussion about this logo to that thread.

Knock it off. Those graphics are certainly a lot flatter than the shiny glass panels that all other Scripps graphics have. That said, hasn't WXYZ had one-off topical graphics for a while now? I feel like we've been here before, wondering if some different topical graphics were a sign of things to come.

There is a new look coming eventually. When it debuts is anyone's guess. As of right now, we have no real confirmation as to what it will look like or if there's any progress on it. We know they prepared a document to send to potential design companies asking them to pitch graphics along the lines of Tegna and other similar packages.

WABC has been looking to replace their current package since it debut. I have been told hell will freeze over before "Linear Drift" is allowed to work with WABC again. They were seriously underwhelmed with the content delivered (does anyone remember when the opens said "NEWS YORK'S NUMBER #1 NEWS"?) It'll happen, maybe sooner than later.

That blue at WLS definitely looks like "no signal" blue. I doubt it's something they do intentionally (as in they're not going "hey lets put blue on the screens when we're not using them,) it's probably just what the monitors do for a while when no signal is routed to it. I suspect they'd eventually turn off automatically if they weren't routed something (the poor man's remote control).

They will not be doing any set replacement (or probably any more major upgrades like this) before they move to the new Hudson Square development.

If you want to know how any SEC or FCC fine against Sinclair is going to go down, just realize that today the SEC fined Facebook $100 million, which sounds like a lot until you realize that 3 months ago Facebook had $11 billion dollars cash on hand and reported $15 billion in revenue. Sinclair, if fined, will get the equivalent of a speeding ticket for the average person. It stings but it doesn't bankrupt you.

Please discuss the KMGH logo here.

Starting to get a little repetitive in this thread. Is the lack of someone telling you traffic times on TV in the year 2019 really THAT big of a deal? It's obvious WCBS doesn't care that they occasionally don't have traffic reports. If viewers were that upset by it, they'd be subbing the role. If it's not affecting the ratings, it's not going to change, and apparently not having traffic reports is not affecting ratings.

95% sure this was done in-house. There seems to be little care for how their stations do graphics on Facebook Live. WTMJ uses the news graphics, but the fonts and text colors are all wrong. A quick look through a lot of their stations Facebook pages show that most don't use graphics on Facebook Live, and those that do are inconsistent. KNXV uses massive versions of the news graphics with weird elements. WFTS, in the same building as the graphics hub, uses this mess. Long story short, I don't think anyone is paying attention to how the stations present themselves on Facebook Live. I have a hunch that they've grown so much in recent years, the stations are free to get away with a lot more than they used to be able to.

Your one-time purchase or subscription for a newspaper basically paid the cost of printing it and delivering it. The content? That was funded by the ads inside. Back in the golden age of newspapers, those were expensive ads. Everyone read the newspaper so they could charge a lot of money for the ad space. Now, the same news is available online, in some cases for free. Advertisers don't want to pay to subsidize the cost of the newspaper anymore, because nobody's reading it. So in comes the paywall. Now the subscribers are actually paying for the content itself. The same goes for TV. TV ads are decreasing in price. Newspapers somewhat responded to this by cramming more ads into less space. Decrease the size of the paper, increase the number of ads. Costs go down, revenue goes up. Except it's much harder to cram more ads into TV. Local TV has never been "free", you paid for the content you received by suffering through commercials. Viewers tend to notice when video is sped up to fit more ad time in (and yes, this is a thing that has been tried). Newscasts are now littered with sponsorship logos in an attempt to cram as much ad real estate into the day as possible. TV viewership is falling. Advertisers know this. People have more things to distract themselves with during commercials. Advertisers know this too. They want to pay less for the ad time because of these things. So the stations need to make money from somewhere, and free on the internet doesn't always cut it, especially in small markets like Fargo. So, just like newspapers, it's time to make the people who want the content pay for it. I've long said the best indicators of where this industry is going will be from the small markets. They're the ones being hit hardest by the changing industry. If it works in Fargo, it's going to start creeping upwards. And if it doesn't work? Well, there are a lot of buildings out there that used to be newspaper offices... Remember, Scripps/WCPO started experimenting with something like this in 2013, and the service is still active.

That open looks like a small market tried to rip off a station with an actual decent graphics package. The field of view on the logo shots just looks odd. The motion just stops abruptly and out of sync with other movements... Looks rushed and cheap (like the rest of CBS' graphics) Don't even get me started on those lower thirds. Looks like a template they bought off one of the many stock graphics sites out there.

A couple users were overusing it, unironically. That and a couple of other "cute" pet names for basically every station group out there. Since that has basically died down I'm removing the word filters... for now.

"Later this year" is what people on here were saying last year. I'll believe it when I see it.