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Well, I found what the main non-newscast logo will look like. And here's more of the upcoming graphics in action.

Dude. We get it. You don't like Tegna, or Scripps, or basically any other company. Drop. It. These companies weren't "better" back in the 80's and 90's. The whole industry was different in the 80's and 90's. It was the golden age of local TV news. Nobody had to compete against a rectangle in your pocket that gives you live news instantly from 300,000 sources. The golden age for local TV has come and gone. We're in a different world. The industry is struggling. These companies are doing what they can to keep afloat and profitable. Nobody is going to "go back" to producing local news the way it was in the 80's and 90's, and even if they did, it's not going to suddenly make their ratings spike back to the levels they saw back then. That was then, this is now, and the times are a changin'.

I don't see what the big deal is. I'm 99% sure this is supposed to be a modern take on their old slanted 11 logo. If they used this exact logo 40 years ago, I have a hunch that every one of you in here complaining would be commenting about how amazing and wonderful it is that Tegna was reviving a "classic" and how the logo they moved off of was the worst logo that ever existed in the history of TV station logos and should have never existed to begin with. It's an 11. It looks way better as a social media icon/app icon/etc than the old one did (which is probably the catalyst for the change.) It looks way better than any typeface would look.

Maybe Amazon can fund a new set for WNYW and KDFW. /sarcasm

Wow. Like some sort of strange testament to Oz, it really says a lot that -- even in its tenth season -- it still gets passed around between stations like a joint at Coachella.

Nothing has driven me crazy this decade like trying to identify that voice. You know, the one who did 20+ years of KFVS opens, a similar body of work for KWWL, and other stations from Idaho to Iowa to North Carolina to...lots more Iowa. "Really, given the volume of work he's done, it's amazing nothing has ever turned up on him, even so much as a name." –ChesapeakeTV "This was the VO for WQAD for many years up to 1997. Does anyone know the name of him?" –now-inactive @FirstNews8 in 2009 "The nameless voiceover" –the title of an email I sent the NMSA in 2010 I tried looking and decided my last chance to figure this long-running mystery out was to email KFVS. Years of searching ended in 23 minutes and vindicated my decision. This guy would never have turned up in any searches. So I feel extra special being able to give this man the credit he so deserved. Jeff Ellingson (1948-2008) lived in Cedar Rapids and did work for three AFLAC stations at the same time (KWWL, KFVS and WAFF). This is what KFVS Marketing Director Paul Keener had to say about Jeff in the email I got back from the station: Ellingson's body of work, of course, was larger than just KWWL and KFVS. He should be credited with 68 different NMSA samples for 16 different stations when all is said and done. (Contemporaneously, he did a third AFLAC station, WAFF, and a fourth ex-AFLAC station after the insurer exited the television business, WITN.) Even though Ellingson died February 5, 2008 at the age of 59, his voice lingered around for a time longer at some of his final client stations. At KIMT, which had just had a new open series done not long before Ellingson passed, it took at least into 2009 for a new voiceover to be brought in for the opens. WABG Greenwood, MS, was using his voice on the air as late as 2010. I'm glad that, after all these years, we are able to finally put a name to the voice and give Ellingson the credit he so richly deserved for his voiceover career.

I'm now more dumber for having read this. You clearly don't know the woman JacobC, so put your pitch fork and torch away, sit down and shut up. Show some respect and be glad she found another job. Also, you show clear inability to splice together a coherent thought. Work on it.

Try using Wikipedia as a source on a school/research paper, and tell us how that goes. Good luck.

Everyone, I'm going to be on WFAA News 8 tomorrow night at 10pm. I've was interviewed by Kevin Reece all afternoon today about my autism, my love to local TV news, etc. So, if you're in the DFW area, please be sure to tune in tomorrow on The Update at 10pm.

This took me 10 minutes....it could clearly be refined just a bit. They really could just replicate the KARE "11" across the group and the world would be a better place. There's a reason that still looks good after 25+ years.

You'll have to forgive Eat News. He and Regis have a bit of a history with each other. Every since the vicious taunting, Eat News sees Regis everywhere and this causes him to boldly address TVNT posters' wild misconceptions regarding ratings versus billings.

It now appears that Graycom has found new homes for all the stations that needed to be divested, https://seekingalpha.com/news/3384335-gray-sets-divestitures-eight-markets-raycom-deal Here's the List: Lockwood (4): WTNZ, WFXG, WPGX, WDFX, all of which are FOX stations and would result in a duopoly in Knoxville. Scripps (2): KXXV/KRHD, WTXL Tegna (2): WTOL, KWES Marquee (1): WSWG, the only Gray station that'll be divested. As for Lockwood, just when we believe that they're about to cash out they turn around and add to their portfolio and will gain a duopoly in Knoxville with independent WKNX. A message to Sinclair, see how simple a divestiture can be when you sell to existing companies and not your BFF or car dealer.

A preview of the new set. Looks like they're keeping with the stone accents featured in the temporary/UpFront set.

What the graphics package looks like is of ZERO concern when it comes to the sale of a multi-million dollar corporation that employs thousands of people.

Or do the way WEWS does it. Drop a very popular-ish branding, replace it with some basic branding. While they're at it, use a basic logo. ABC Action News to News 28. Never do a WEWS.

You can cheat the system by using a gimbal system (like a Ronin) and having the camera operator strapped into the helicopter, shooting out the removed door. I believe I heard WISN and WTMJ have done similar to capture HD aerials because their choppers are similar to WJZ's in that everything seems to be analog up to the transmitter. You probably have to have a mechanic remove the door, but they're designed to be removed anyways.

Is this the right time to do this? Thoughts and Prayers David Smith

Failed Marketing Idea??? Or Al Primo's guest bath?

B-bu-but.... Tegna-itis.

Gotta give credit to any organization that sticks around for 1,065 years. Hey, it's longer than the Notre Dame cathedral.

They may have the most ACCURATE forecast, but not with spelling! (See top of banner. Irony!)

1998 called. It wants its HDTV back.

Personally I'm sick of flat design, so a return to 2010 is a welcome departure.

Look what I was able to find via the Wayback Machine!

The sign was restored and converted to LED, according to this video.

This isn't even worth talking about. It's not going to happen. Mainly because there is no such thing as a universal "license to broadcast" (The FCC would need to evaluate and rule on each of Sinclair's 193+ broadcast television licenses individually.) Let's keep this thread focused on the Nexstar and Tribune acquisition, please.

I wonder what intern is running the ticker.

I bet Amazon would deliver that shiny news set the next day...maybe even that afternoon if you are an Amazon Prime member.

Simple answer ... cuz it’s Youngstown. That’s all. — Matt

I think calling NYC a lazy market is unfair. Anybody who has worked in that market knows the lazy do not survive, whether as an individual or a station. What IS true, is that the business and competition have changed. First, prime-access syndication brings in a lot of dollars. Even the non-King World shows bring in heavy revenue. New York is a news hungry market. Counting Westchester, New Jersey and Long Island, there are six daily newspapers, two all news radio stations and two 24-hour cable news operations. Those cable news channels are enormously popular. Just because you don’t see them on the Nielsen breakdowns doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Just try to find a New Yorker who doesn’t watch them, even if only occasionally. Then add the classic English language broadcast stations and the two Hispanic stations, which all have respectable audiences. And then there are the websites and apps. News hungry New Yorkers are already finding their news in those places throughout the day. And don’t forget: most stations are starting morning news at 4:30AM. Some have expanded midday news to an hour and are starting evening shows at 4:00PM. You didn’t see that 20 or 30 years ago. By 7:00, viewers are ready to move on. And, if they do want more, NY1 and News12 are there. That’s not a lazy news market. Name one other market in the country that produces that much product each day. But, perhaps more importantly, every station has down-sized significantly since the days of news after 6:00. Back then, stations had news staffs as much as 40% bigger than they are today. Many more people to produce less total product than you will find now. Today, stations barely have enough people to do what they’re doing. There are probably hundreds of posts in this website alone about being stretched so thin and doing more with less. Could stations hire more people to do more evening newscasts? Well, they could, but stations haven’t been in the staff-expansion mode anywhere, in years. And, as history has shown, prime-access newscasts against Wheel & Jeopardy tend not to be very successful or profitable. Those are just cold, hard business office realities. Stations aren’t printing profit dollars in the basement like they used to. Comparing news programming in 2018 to news programming in 1988 and thinking all things are equal, is off base.

Jeff Zucker should have never made it past his EP gig at Today. This was the last time he actually succeeded at something. Ever since he took over in increasing roles at NBC, he destroyed that network until it was bought by Comcast. Even then, much of its success has been a result of the declines of everyone else. And remember, HE himself was responsible for bringing on the Donald to The Apprentice... Flash forward to CNN. Much of the damage has been done under his tenure, from the endless coverage of stories like the missing plane to the never-ending coverage of the Oval Office. CNN, like the rest of the media was guilty by falling for Trump's never ending yapping and inability to shut his mouth, and gave this man the greatest gift any political candidate could ever receive, endless FREE publicity. After his election, someone finally had a stream of consciousness, and the endless coverage shifted to the antics that this president was generating. Of course, the "right side" used this as ammo to paint all of this smotherage as "fake news". Things are so screwed up, some of it deserves coverage. But there are other things going on in this world, and it's going to have to take a change at the top at this point to get back to the real issues we face, and so journalists can cover something else for a change. Leave the antics to the tabloids and whack-job partisan sites.....

I regret I can only like this just once lol

Please forgive me ...I have committed many sins and many felonies.... Grrrrr....I'm a tiger burning up with your love...Grrrrrr!

It’s the toupee, it makes him 40 years younger. Oh wait.

If only they ditched that awful Benedek remnant logo too.

Last week I found myself watching CNN’s coverage of the Reagan assassination, the space shuttle Challenger disaster and Desert Storm coverage on YouTube. It was what real journalism was... and should be today. Just straight reporting. FOX, MSNBC and CNN today are not news operations anymore. They are opinion channels. It’s a shame. Good reporting about world events is much more riveting to watch than a Brady Bunch split screen with six talking heads blabbering on and on about what the weird haired man posted on twitter today. Hopefully these “news” nets find their way back to reporting the news again... but I’m not gonna hold my breath for that.

I've been lurking for 16 years and a poster for 8, so I definitely feel the evolution. I'm glad to be here and helping keep TVNT running well.

This is a great move. Draper Media is not some major station group like Tegna, Raycom or Sinclair. They only have a presence in the Salisbury market, and WBOC is one of the most dominant television stations in America. The people of Delmarva think of WBOC and no one else when they think of local news. For them to continue their growth with a CBS and FOX affiliate, then a Telemundo affiliate, and now an NBC affiliate in addition to 5 radio stations demonstrates their dominance. If it were a station group that has no connection to the market and didn't know anything about the community's interests this would be terrible, but it's a local company looking to serve local people. Win-win.

When Gray merges with Raycom, they'll get WALB, their original flagship built and signed on by the company, back in the fold.

KOTV (kotv.com) Oct. 24, 1997 KTUL (ktul.com) Nov. 28, 1999 (The first Wayback link to still have mostly working images) KJRH (kjrh.com) Nov. 8, 1996 KOKI (fox23.com) Nov. 4, 1996

That's because the Texas 21 logo is shaped after a US Highway sign, not an Interstate sign.

Time for WFAA -- and TEGNA -- to do some soul-searching. If you're TEGNA, losing viewers and coming up empty in every timeslot in your biggest market is embarrassing.

I agree with Weeters, it's also not just as simple as "we're breaking into programming," if WEWS is hubbed as far as master control, you would have to contact them and let them know you're breaking into programming. On top of that, the network will need to be informed you are breaking into their programming to deliver breaking news and find out if there will be a special re-air or if you're just plain SOL. In the case of soap opera viewers, you DO NOT mess with their soaps unless there is actual cause for concern. A simple crawl and heavy social media presence is good enough in this day and age. If they waited and broke into WWTBAM, they can do so because that is their syndicated slot and syndications can be reaired later. However, why would we risk potential local ad revenue for breaking news about something that ended up being nothing. Furthermore, like Weeters said, it's better to know all the facts and have things confirmed than to break into programming and have no idea what you're talking about. Working on an assignment desk, I get hate calls all the time for breaking into programming and against. You can't make everyone happy. And screaming at the person who answers the phone and telling them that they and the station can go to hell and you'll never watch them again means absolutely nothing. For every lost viewer for something stupid and small, we gain about 100 more.

Maybe they can call Susan Barnett back as main anchor. She was liked and kept it kinda stable after the Alycia Lane and Mandte incident. I think Susan still lives in Philly area since her husband is a Doctor.

Yeah because WGNO got gored to the white meat when Nexstar bought them. Oh wait. As for WHTM, they were already headed for fucking themselves over but Nexstar just accelerated a process that originated under previous owners.

My ideal wishlist is.... * Anything WFMY 2, WGHP 8, WXII 12 and WXLV 45 in the Triad from the mid-90s to 2004, they are so hard to find, especially when you want more of WXII in the era of Hearst's camera graphics package (2000-04) * WLFL 22 in the Triangle from the mid-90s to the mid-2000s, when they were a Fox affiliate then became a WB affiliate in 1998. * WCHS 8 in the early-mid 2000s Eyewitness News era, using Peters' WBTW "Best of Two Worlds" theme * WSPA 7 in the 1990s when they used 615 Music's Pinnacle, and sister station WNEG 32 in Toccoa from the 1990s to the 2000s * WBTV 3, WSOC 9, WCCB 18 and WCNC 6 in Charlotte from the early-mid 2000s, that is what I desperately want alongside the Triad!

Video of the launch...