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What, Fox doesn’t believe in Q anymore? Trust the plan…

I do like the new ABC logo, but not the size of it. Rather the ABC size be same size as the 7 logo and be right beside it. Like CBS 2 for example. By 2033, we should have this logo.

I just want a circle 7 pin!

It just isn't a thread about a Tegna station without complaining about C Clarity.

Why are we talking about this? The head of CBS News is stepping down, not Norah O'Donnell. There's no indication Norah is going anywhere. Is it a possibility? Sure. But it's not a guarantee. Whoever takes over the news department will certainly want to make changes, but I'm inclined to think CBS won't want to make another anchor change so soon after the last one.

Yes, yes, because THAT'S the stations' problems. Not the decades of mismanagement, budget cuts, and subsequent poor ratings. Really, most here need to get a grip. I don't want to say that CBS Local is a downgrade from modern Enforcer (though I think it is), but it DEFINITELY wouldn't be some magical problem-solver, either. More than just about any cosmetic adjustment we've ever discussed here, such a theme change across the board might be the most unnoticeable of all time, to the average viewer. Hell, I have no problem saying that neither Gari nor Stephen Arnold have produced the best adaptations of the WBBM signature. They just happened to be the powerhouse music companies of their eras, therefore most accessible for the average client.

As a moderator, this thread will be locked if people can't stop repeating long-winded, tired stances. That goes for individuals on both sides of the argument. Failure to abide will result in timeouts. Understood?

Top Ten things we copied from our competitors... 10) Giant video walls 9) location, baby! 8- Giving former Co-Anchors the "Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien" treatment 7) A newfound appreciation for Smooth Jazz 6) Outdated references to bits from retired CBS programs 5) That DJ we found leftover from the TRL days at Viacom 4) Paint everything orange- that got the Today Show 5 points, right? 3) Hey look! We got an couch from IKEA too! 2) Retired NFL players make great anchors! 1) Sure Willard wore a dress, but we gave Tony a fun hat! All possible sarcasm in the jokes is implied.

1) local station probably didn’t went to spend money on a custom design - nor did they have the time 2) it literally matters to absolutely no one outside of this website if a set looks similar to one in a different market

Hi Kenneth, as someone who lives in Charlotte I can tell you that Queen City is a well known name for Charlotte. QC or Queen City has been used heavily for decades. WBTV has two daily shows with Queen City in the title (QC Mornings and QC@3) plus an entire digital initiative called QC Life. WKQC-FM put QC in their calls way back in 2003. There's more examples but you get the point: Charlotteans are very familiar with Queen City. Besides I don't think out of town visitors are a factor in developing a brand geared toward locals. I'm not defending what I view as very messy branding...just sharing some background from a local on the Queen City nickname.

Also …. CBS now has a Black woman, a Greek man and Black man who was a former NFL athlete all anchoring a morning show in Times Square. Sound familiar?

I don’t think it’s that bad at all...I think this is another case of freaking out over nothing. It could very easily have been a retro logo, and if it were, people on here would love it.

Hard to believe an 82-year-old man is still telling men whether they are or aren't the father. That amazes me.

Drop “abc” from the name of its news operation but make the “abc” logo larger and more emphasized. Makes sense.

If the network is spreading misinformation then this was the correct move.

Good old WNEP. For all of the love the music gets across Northeastern and ALL of Central Pennsylvania... They still get the callers who can't stand when the lottery numbers come on...

I can't wait for this thread to go years and years like the ABC O&O speculation.

It's very clear to me the problem isn't Norah; it's the nature of the evening news and CBS's position in it. They're always going to be third place no matter who they put in that chair.

In their defense, people don't exactly jump online to praise anything that they like.

Here’s a sneak peak of WTTG’s new set when they move from Washington DC to suburban Maryland. Right now the launch date is supposedly mid to late July.

Really, does it need to be phrased so negatively here? They're in my market and they could be a lot worse, like WGCL worse or WWJ-TV non-existent, and they have management which is willing to spend. And when WTMJ is in the market continuing to drag it down, I'd rather watch a great fourth-place news operation trying hard than a third-place one we know can do 250% better (and has). They got to 25 years; there were times we were praying they got to 10 or even five, so it's a major accomplishment to me.

IT'S BACK! OUR PRAYERS ANSWERED! https://www.youtube.com/user/cmsloan2002/videos

Or -SC means, bear with me now, Sub-Channel.

Someone was asleep at the wheel

For a small market, this is actually a decent package and set

It would be ideal if we could express our opinions without making a personal attack or judgement. I find posts from @mrschimpf to be knowledgeable and extremely sound from a business perspective. Not everyone may agree but to say someone "doesn't understand a thing" seems unnecessarily personal. For example, I don't know how one can predict that NewsNation "will never amount to anything" and I think it is overheated rhetoric to claim it is "the biggest loser in tv news history." MSNBC had a decade of failed shows before they hit their stride and the basement dweller that is the CBS News morning show certainly has to be in contention...both are still in business by the way. Lastly, I can't believe that one single show, Live PD, is the ONLY show that could deliver exposure. That seems extremely limiting. It is a wide world, there must be other ideas out there. My point is while I do not agree with your point of view, I do respect you as a person and your right to feel differently than me. For the record, I don't know mrschimpf. Just didn't like what I perceived as an attack. They might not even have noticed or cared.

MSNBC has gutted studio 3A and is expected to debut a new look in September. In these photos you can see where the newsroom side of the space was, as well as the studio side. Stay tuned for more updates…

Local TV in general is experiencing a talent exodus. https://cronkitenewslab.com/management/2021/10/21/local-newsroom-recruitment-crisis-part-1/ https://cronkitenewslab.com/management/2021/10/28/local-newsroom-recruitment-crisis-part-2/ Nobody wants to work for peanuts in local TV when they can make bank elsewhere. I pointed out in the Discord last week that former WISN anchor Melinda Davenport was the host for Facebook's developer conference live streams. @Myron Falwellsummed it up best: Broadcast TV talent is learning they can use their skills at other jobs that make more money and have less stressful hours. There's fewer and fewer people that wish to replace them. TV news is a dying medium, and fewer people desire to stay in it when they can get better pay and hours that allow them to have a social life elsewhere.

Someone, for the love of all things holy, please call Gray and tell them to delete this package from their system… Literally this is all I see..

We're not doing this for every market. Everybody just stop, please.

Are you all watching the same show that I am? The reporting is in depth and layered and smart. They have great chemistry and the set is stunning.

I came THIS CLOSE to rechristening the thread as CBS Early This Mornings News Show. Oh, and the lower thirds suck. The rest of everything is solid.

This new look cleans up so many of the bulky elements from the 2016 version, so that makes it an automatic upgrade, for me. Better balance of the blue and white elements, while keeping the bare bones structure. And I LOVE the flashes of the peacock colors in certain animations. Not divert the conversation, but I need to take a personal victory lap, here. During the pandemic, I screwed around with some ideas for a new O&O look, and I love that the NBC designers had some similar ideas to me. I didn't share these with anyone, and I had no prior knowledge to what was going to roll out. I kind of predicted the time/temp realignment (pic #1), though I left in the old, full-width social ticker and only slightly modified the 2016 L3s. I also tried out a look that emphasized the use of the peacock rainbow on a white lower third (#2). Anyway...

Well since you went there, our former president is 74 and senile, among other things.

Just because something shows up on someone's demo reel or portfolio does not mean they created the entire thing from scratch. If there was some "rule" that you could only include stuff you made 100%, nobody would be able to get a job.

A fringe network with fringe views setting up shop on a fringe tv channel. Best to let the free market work on this one.

Gray's taking advantage of the amount of television and film production that takes place around Atlanta. That's a priority worth chasing. Unless the film industry decides to move away from Atlanta, this facility will print money from Netflix and Amazon from the moment it opens.

Moderators, can we separate out the J!/WOF preemption tracking? I didn’t mind it at first, but it has overtaken this thread over the past 2-3 months, and is not really syndication news, but more preemption news.

Maybe someone can help me here but I fail to understand these broad doomsday statements. Saying that "NewsNation has lost a majority of its staff" is simply not true. There are about 150 people on staff at NewsNation. Have over 75 people quit? Sure they have lost a few key leaders, and I'm not downplaying that, but to say a majority of their staff is a gross exaggeration. And I still don't understand the "cut losses" concept. People on this board have been clamoring for it to be shut down since the day it launched. This product is a little over 6 months old! FOX News took 6 years before they became a ratings juggernaut. MSNBC took much longer. And both of those channels took far more start up cash than NewsNation did. As long as Nexstar sees long term potential, I believe they will give the channel time to find an audience. All it takes is one marquee program and they can build around that. O'Reilly was the cornerstone for Fox while Olbermann was the ticket for MSNBC. I do agree they need a better programming strategy. The all-things to all-people programming strategy is no longer viable. I would advise them to take a "heartland" approach. I hear a lot from friends in the middle of the country that news is too focused on NY and LA. Maybe being in Chicago then can build a news product for middle America. That certainly would distinguish them. Their ratings would probably be modest, given the population density. But it would give them a target audience for programming and ad sales. In any event, with a lot of people's jobs on the line I'm sure not rooting for a failure. I hope they are given time to find their voice.

We don't know what type of working relationship (or lack thereof) Cheryl and Mark have, so while I agree the comment in question doesn't seem like a big deal, WE don't know the full story (and may never will).

I'm not sure why people here are so eager to memorialize someone who - more than anyone - created the toxic hellscape of discourse we currently endure...

Dunn and Friend are officially fired. Announcement coming tomorrow evening. Update: My contact at CBS said there would be a statement today, but it was not termination - turns out CBS is launching another investigation and has retained counsel. An announcement went out to staff this evening. One can only wonder if this will result in action against more than just Dunn & Friend?

Ukee's statement about the scandal.

I think now would be a good time to reconsider that 45 logo...

It's a fantastic reboot of their old-time logo. I think it's going to be the next design trend as stations resurrect and re-boot their heritage branding because of how homogeneous and "networked" broadcast affiliates have become. WKBN doing what they did a decade ago was another great example of using their heritage "WKBN" sign as part of their logo.

I'm also getting sick of the ranting and slander on this thread. It is making the posts unattractive.

Get them chairs, dammit. They look ridiculous, side-by-side.

Here they are in motion.

You're watching ABC 58/68.2/17.2/40.2 News at 5...Coverage You Can Count On.

In terms of career progression, one would not go from anchoring a broadcast at WABC to anchoring World News Now. It pays less and the hours are worse. If anything, you sometimes see the opposite - Liz Cho and Rob Nelson, for example, both anchored WNN before coming to WABC. For most, anchoring a broadcast at WABC would be the apex of a career.