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A couple of things stood out to me in NBC's announcement regarding NBC News Daily. First, the network said, "NBC News will provide signature world-class reporting and breaking news coverage in a first-of-its kind, live in most markets mid-day news offering." It was the "live in most markets" comment that stood out to me. Well, today The Los Angeles Times gave me more by stating, "The anchors for the program will depend on the time zone, as the newscast will be live across the country, using the hours shown on the NBC News Now stream. Stations will get the team of Morgan Radford and Vicky Nguyen or Kate Snow and Aaron Gilchrist." So essentially the network will simply broadcast an hour of NBC News Now. Or I guess you could say NBC News Now will stream four hours of NBC News Daily. In any event, it is using one crew to create a program simultaneously for the NBC broadcast network and the NBC News Now stream. And thus, the economics of this programming decision makes sense. NBC gets lower production costs and probably similar ratings. Meanwhile, you move production-cost heavy "Days" over to Peacock where you have two revenue streams: subscriptions and advertising. The other thing that I was curious about was "the option for NBC stations to add local news.” TV Newser reported that, "NBC stations do have the option of adding local news instead of this new national news offering." I'm hearing that statement is not accurate. NBC is not relinquishing the time slot back to affiliates. It is the ability for stations to add local news into the national show, not cover up the national broadcast with a local newscast. Think of it like the five-minute station breaks during the Today Show (7:25, 7:55, etc.) where local stations do news and weather.6 points
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Tell that to the people who still watch and tweet about it. As well have a podcast dedicated to genre. Oh yeah, that will go well with them with that flipping' comment.4 points
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I honestly wouldn't mind, it's a major improvement despite being temporary. Just add a desk, add another area for weather and call it a day4 points
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GMA3 already does this, allowing ABC affiliates to do a quick news update before the second half of the show.3 points
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Days' budget had been cut over the years. The shows model was to tape way in advancement, so in July they were taping Christmas shows. A few years ago they fired the cast, but that was apart of the process for NBC to pay for the license fees. Sony treated Days' liked the red headed step child. They had reduced the pay for many of it actors, and the budget had been reduced alot. There was never any room in the budget for alot of things. Bold contract is up with CBS in 2023, and The Bell Family owns that show outright. They would have more staying power, because the show makes alot of $$$ overseas. The family both sold Bold and YR internationally. As for YR they have the biggest budget too, but CBS has cut their license fees over the years. Veteran actors have taken paycuts over the years. YR as well Bold have made $$$ overseas selling the show internationally. One reason Another World was cut was because NBC wanted to owned the show. P&G wasn't going to sell it to NBC so they axe the show for Passions. P&G wanted out of the soap business with Guiding Light and World Turns. Bold contract is up in 2023 & YR contract is up in 2024. ABC owns General Hospital outright, so they can axe them at anytime they want.3 points
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I think Days is the last relic of the era when NBC had Sale of the Century, Another World, Santa Barbara, Scrabble and Daytime Wheel of Fortune.3 points
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Here are some more pictures on how it is being used. I will go as far to say it looks more visually appealing than the outgoing set by a thousand years. Very much like the temporary set they used before the outgoing set debuted, it is more elaborate than most small market permanent sets. Obviously the standing desk is a complaint let's hope the new set won't have that!3 points
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Saw a new KDKA sports promo. Don’t have video of it but it uses the deconstructed eye and blue color scheme that matches the CBS network look. It was sharp looking.2 points
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Fair point, but I think MSNBC has spent the past decade and a half communicating that they’re a political network. I mean, they literally called themselves “the place for politics,” so I don’t know if an extra network newscast is the thing that signals that. Plus, I was mostly confused about what an earlier comment said, about signaling to Chris Jansing that they don’t care about her show2 points
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I seriously don’t understand what message this is supposedly sending to the people at their cable channel. Can’t the network and MSNBC coexist? Also, wouldn’t this mean they were “sending a message” when they expanded Today years ago?2 points
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I don't think Hot Bench moving to overnights (or sold off to the Sinclair/Nexstar duops) will be a criticized move by KSL. It seems like they moved DOOL (as has been proven over the years) not because of any plots which went against "Mormon values" (like when they aired SNL again as their Saturday night Utes sports show declined), but they just plain got sick of having to shuffle around the schedule and deal with viewers when the show got pre-empted, so they just pushed it to overnights so that it had a steady timeslot where it's easily recorded without fear 95% of the time of a pre-emption. They'll be fine to get a news show at that time...or just keep their schedule as-is if they fear the NBC News replacement ends up as sponcon fluff most days if ratings don't work out. But the thing is the affiliates have lost power...like the 'you don't like it, deal' trash involving the College Football Playoff (and Rose Bowl) being cable-only, stations can no longer argue against the networks to keep shows, and it's terrible that now they have to play tech support to help their loyalist viewers navigate Peacock instead of having the recourse to just air the show if they chose to under an equivalent 'internal syndication' deal to the Litton E/I blocks.2 points
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My take is this: I've been a DOOL fan since 1987, though I haven't really watched much in recent years because of real life (and my local NBC station moving it to 12 noon a few years ago). But remember when NBC took its last original soap, Passions off the network and moved it to DirecTV? It remained on five days a week, then was reduced to three days a week before it ended completely about a year after the move. And let's not forget about the short-lived web revivals of All My Children and One Life to Live after ABC killed those programs. And that was in a world before streaming. Days of Our Lives is an expensive program to produce. I would expect some of the longer-tenured cast members (Deidre Hall, Alison Sweeney, Drake Hogestyn, Josh Taylor, etc.) are the highest paid. I don't think the ad revenues will be the same with streaming-only as opposed to broadcast. If budgets get reduced, expect a purge of cast and creative staff. I see the show surviving in this form no more than three years.2 points
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It's official: AFG is joining the Hot Topics table as a full-time co-host for Season 26. And in a pleasant surprise, so is Ana Navarro. The View will now have six co-hosts. https://deadline.com/2022/08/the-view-co-hosts-ana-navarro-and-alyssa-farah-griffin-1235085081/ Sunny Hostin also signed a multi-year, multi-million dollar deal to stay as co-host https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/sunny-hostin-the-view-renewal-deal-2022-1235332759/2 points
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You have to assume there will be a number of affiliates not happy right now to learn their schedule is incompatible thanks to NBC giving an hour over to news, and since Kelly Clarkson is a lead-out from DOOL in some markets, her flow is also screwed up. There are still NBC affiliates that have never recovered from the Santa Barbara hour going back to them and having to fill it with a C-level talk show (or now Dateline), which is why NBC couldn't give up the Another World/Passions hour when they expanded Today the second time. And now the affiliate base has to take the brunt of the 'what is a Peacock', 'can't you just air it anyways just hook up your TV to Peacock and broadcast it' and 'I will never watch your station again' calls. If this was announced a year out maybe it would work out well. Now it just seems like a panic 'follow the leader' move because ABC lucked into a good thing with GMA3WYNTK and NBC itself has such a deep hard news vacuum between 7:40 a.m.-6:30 p.m. outside breaking news days. And oh God this is inevitably gonna have a 'deal of the day' segment like GMA3WYNTK and The Talk isn't it? And...(LeBron timeout pain GIF)...MSNBC. You already have a news channel. You're basically telling Chris Jansing you don't care about her 1 p.m. show. ABC at least gave plenty of notice All My Children was ending and had the 'we don't have a news channel' excuse to cover the move.2 points
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I know we joke about the age of the typical soap opera viewer, but university students were surprisingly loyal soap viewers, at least when I was in school. People would gather in the common areas of dorms to watch every day. That was also a time before cell phones, of course.1 point
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The previous FNIA and SNF Logos were in use from its 2006 launch, which probably meant it was time for a refresh.1 point
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This move could produce a single digit barrage of calls to the local NBC affiliate, when it finally goes away. The same number are the ones who light it up when DOOL is pre-empted by some kind of NBC News special report or local weather warning.1 point
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I mentioned in that thread that it would likely be the one to be bumped to overnights this year. The other stations probably have their schedules set for this year but next year I could see it moving stations.1 point
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Navarro is not expected to appear on the show every day: https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/view-names-alyssa-farah-griffin-ana-navarro-hosts/story?id=878885931 point
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Happy to hear that Ana is also joining, she’s got really great chemistry with the table whenever I’m watching.1 point
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I mean, wasn’t a similar argument used for the Broadcasting Act 1990 for the lessening of government oversight and regulation of ITV (Which was arguably done for political reasons as well)?I guess the merger and accusation era will only continue, even if the UK media market is already highly consolidated.1 point
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WOW! After 57 years. I always knew that Days would be the first to go in the final 4 soaps, being that it had the worst budget among them. The lighting was at it's cheapest point and sets kept getting smaller and more repetitive. Storylines (like all sopas) were in a bad state. At least this isn't a full blown cancelation, and the idea of soaps on streaming might be more acceptable this time around versus when All My Children and One Life to Live tried it in 2013. As soaps continue to go the way of the dodo bird, I doubt that more news and more short term talk shows are the answer. As for the news we will get, it'll be more of the same: inflation, January 6th, COVID, the supreme court and pop culture. No unique international coverage, just wash rinse repeat. As for B&B, it should stay at 30 minutes. Soaps should've never been expanded to an hour , due to the amount of scripts and budgetary constraints. I don't think CBS wants to mess with Y&R's 12:30 time slot as it's still the number one rated soap (if that's still worth something) and O&O newscasts aren't top performers.1 point
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Also prior to that, Steve Ramsey was news director at KFMB-TV San Diego before coming to WGN-TV in Chicago (which was also a national superstation back then). You meant a client with TVbD (Television by Design).1 point
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According to TVNewser’s write up, Daily will be simulcasting on News Now, and stations apparently have the option of replacing it with local newscasts. I wonder how many would actually do so And FWIW, the press release says a “large percentage” of viewers already watch DOOL online, so this probably wasn’t a short sighted decision1 point
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TBF there's a much better chance of those other soaps streaming on Pluto TV or the like because Comcast/NBCUniversal most likely wouldn't spend money to revive or license long-cancelled soaps they don't own outight no matter how long they last on it, even if P&G makes a good offer for them. Plus, you can easily find full episodes across several decades of each show (possibly without ads) on YouTube.1 point
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Maybe BNC could be used a block for news programming on theGrio TV? Actually, according to theGrio's website, it looks like a merger between the two networks and it appears to have taken effect on Monday. If theGrio hasn't had a FAST presence before, it now does. Their website says that the commentary will still continue, so it looks like this is a name change.1 point
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It's a lucky thing that Days Of Our Lives is getting a new lease on life via Peacock streaming service. I'd welcome seeing Peacock perhaps exploring acquiring rights to do reruns of classic Procter & Gamble soaps, including any and all surviving episodes of Another World, Search For Tomorrow, The Edge Of Night, Guiding Light, and As The World Turns... Or maybe bringing certain shows back for new half-hour episodes. I certainly miss seeing the soaps and don't really care for the major TV networks going for cheaper fanfare.1 point
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"I don't like something, so instead of just not tuning in, it shouldn't exist for anybody."1 point
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I’m sure affiliates are loving the fact they are getting this news (officially) just a month before the new season starts, long after 22-23 syndie deals were locked up. I don’t see many large market, non O&O NBC stations sticking with the new, replacement newscast longterm.1 point
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Even after the cancellations of All My Children and One Life to Live, this move genuinely shocks me because I really thought soap operas still have some staying power on television in this day and age. But it's a much better fate for it than cancellation, assuming by the success it's spinoff Beyond Salem has on Peacock.1 point
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*she I mean they also have two other national news channels, News Now and LX (which the O&Os run). Just because one of them gets an hour on the network doesn’t mean they don’t care about their other properties. MSNBC caters to a different audience than the network anyway, so I don’t see much of a conflict1 point
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Well, that is indeed a shame, but life does go on. Soap operas are beloved dinosaurs, but dinosaurs all the same. Better to have it on Peacock than cancelled outright. Also, if NBC had given the time back to the affiliates, the hour would likely have been filled with some combination of local news and lifestyle fluff, leading to even more complaints about it somewhere on the board. NBC News may not be glamorous, but it's better than infomercials. I think that should be their new slogan.1 point
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I'm surprised they got rid of Days for more news, I guess there has been too many break ins with Special Reports (and to compete with GMA3) that NBC just said ok, we will do this. I also wonder if this means we will see more local newscasts on some affiliates as well at 3 PM ET.1 point
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I feel like FOX views FWX as their version of the big 3's streaming news outlets. The news market was saturated (and they already launched FOX Nation), so this is their entry into the FAST realm. Their spots on the streamers have been firmly established, so now they can work on getting their way onto cable lineups.1 point
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According to the article, it'll be anchored by some of NBC News Now's anchors, Aaron Gilchrist, Vicky Nguyen, and Morgan Radford (plus Kate Snow), so they're probably trying to align it with that, instead of Today. I believe the 1pm hour of News Now is a repeat of the live 12pm hour anyway, so I wonder if they'll simulcast Daily.1 point
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If anything, I'm surprised the news program didn't adopt the Today brand, could have easily been called "TODAY in the Afternoon". Looks like GMA3 has some competition. Days and GMA3 seems like they were neck-and-neck in the ratings: https://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2022/07/daytime-broadcast-ratings-for-the-week-of-july-11-15-20221 point
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Keep in mind, the era a lot of these are coming from was when it was still entirely possible for a station's in-house graphics department to create an entire news graphics package on their own. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that's where a lot of these unknown ones came from, especially the larger stations (i.e. WPIX and WGN) You see a lot of TVbD knockoffs because a lot of stations looked at their work and went "we can do that ourselves for much less". You don't see it much anymore because most stations barely have a graphics department, and unless you really like working in local TV, most decent designers jump ship to different lines of work.1 point
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Actually YouTube TV is their first pay TV provider. Verizon would be their first cable provider. Considering FOX Weather is streaming first, I don't think they'll lock it down anytime soon, or else they'll lose most of their user base. Also, look at Newsmax. Their stream is completely free despite being on many cable providers.1 point
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