WBTS - Home of NBC Boston?

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  1. channel99

    channel99 Assignment Editor

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    WBTS sharing with WUNI would certainly work, and there is enough room now, since WUNI now has only 2 channels - the 1080i primary channel and the 480i LATV. Coverage is good, and it may well be the best channel left for WBTS.

    WMFP first broadcast from the Lawrence area, soon moving that analog signal to a Boston office tower, but the COL remained as Lawrence. However that's too far north to be covered by WWDP, which has a very short tower, and limited coverage, requiring the COL change. Possibly WBTS could move to WWDP, but WMFP is probably most interested in keeping must-carry rights for the WMFP license.
     
  2. Myron Falwell

    Myron Falwell Director of Graphic Blandishment and Chroma Cues

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    I strongly and vehemently disagree, and stand by my dissent. If GE-led NBC hated Ed Ansin as much as you claim they did over the WSVN debacle, they would have never done business with him and worked to wind up on UHF instead.
    I do not know how many times I have to say this on here, and everyone seems to miss the freaking point.

    NBC affiliated with WHDH because they WANTED to, and because they NEVER truly had any ill will with Sunbeam and Ed Ansin. They may not have been happy with the circumstances over leaving WBZ, but WHDH was already in turnaround mode and eventually overtook WBZ for the #2 position in the market anyway (mind you, Westinghouse stations pre-1995 ran to the beat of their own drum, preempting network shows at will for their local or in-house syndicated fare).

    It was never "the only viable option." They WANTED to be there. They CHOSE to be there. So much so that they signed WHDH to a really long contract.

    Once Comcast took over, everything changed. But that's because the new Comcast leadership wanted everything to themselves, not because of an affiliation switch that happened at the tail end of the Reagan Administration.

    Good freaking grief.
     
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  3. Myron Falwell

    Myron Falwell Director of Graphic Blandishment and Chroma Cues

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    Same with KYW, long the #3 station in Philadelphia during the 70s and 80s. While Westinghouse effectively took over CBS, the operations culture with that whole station group changed so severely that it almost could be considered as an ownership change.
     
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  4. channel2

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    WBZ becoming an O&O seems to have messed them up a lot...
     
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    Actually... not really. Because now they're probably third or even second in a five-crowed field.
     
  6. jbnews

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    After NBC Boston started, WBZ jumped from 3rd to 2nd.
     
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    Exactly. If NBC really wanted to, they could have gone to one of those other independent stations. UPN and WB still hadn't launched at that time. They just liked WHDH for obvious reasons.
     
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    I doubt Tribune would have let WLVI break rank and join NBC, and they could have bought WSBK but chose not to.
     
  9. JCB4TV

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    In 1994, WFXT was not a Fox O&O as they were owned by the Celtics at that time as NBC might have gone there which would have allowed WHDH to make like WSVN and joined Fox.
     
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    Myron Falwell Director of Graphic Blandishment and Chroma Cues

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    That option was open. As was WSBK and WLVI. And guess what? NBC didn't take them. Because they wanted to do business with Sunbeam and WHDH, and never felt it a last resort.

    A last resort would be a WWJ-TV, KDNL or WNWO, stations that have an imperceptible audience or no news operation.
     
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    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NCqitsJBlVv--fUQqk322SSPy7Rf0bBVVWs3ztwr6Qo/edit

    The Google doc I linked to above is the "Television Makes Strange Bedfellows" portion of Raymie's New World @ 20 series written for the 20th anniversary of the New World-Fox announcement.

    That document explains how, and why each network chose their partner in New England at the time, and the factors in how WHDH became the NBC station
     
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    It a
    It appeats that in essence, WHDH went with NBC as they had a national news department while Fox News was still 2 years away.
     
  13. Carl Youncinator

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    Will WGBH have to discontinue mobile TV when they move from rf 19 to rf 5 during the repack?
     
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    Not necessarily, but mobile TV probably won't work very well on low-VHF, so they might have to move it to WGBX (and possibly switch to ATSC 3.0, which has better mobile TV capabilities).
     
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    Wikipedia indicates that WBIN shut down on 9/15/17.
     
  16. broadcastfan9751

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    They haven't shut down, they've begun channel sharing with WUTF according to RabbitEars.
     
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    WBIN's VHF translators are still being listed at the bottom of the screen. Since a spectrum auction was for their main signal on UHF rf 35, are their lp translators still allowed to operate along with the their channel share agreement with WUTF ?
     
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    Yeah, the translators are under separate licenses, so they can still operate.
     
  19. channel99

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    Univision bought the rights to the WBIN license, but not the WBIN calls - they have 10 days to change the call letters. Would the Binnie translators still carry it? See section 5.7:

    https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101763584&qnum=5040&copynum=1&exhcnum=2

    The OTA shared channel is only 480i, 16x9. Comcast has pulled the WBIN HD feed, plus the subchannels Antenna TV and Grit - replacing them with color bars with the message "WBIN-TV is no longer broadcasting the programming previously seen on this channel. Please contact WBIN-TV should you have further questions."
    WBIN is still carried in SD mode in the channel group containing the SD versions of other OTA stations. WUTF has been carrying Grit for a while, anyway - but for at least for now - there's no Antenna TV in the Boston market.
     
  20. mre29

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    I assume that's so Binnie can use them elsewhere.

    I wonder what the new calls will be.
     

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