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The Tribune Saga, Part 3: New Sale Talks

Discussion in 'General TV' started by mre29, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. televisionguy16

    televisionguy16 News Director

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    I find it really disappointing that KDVR is the one to take over KWGN when KWGN had a news department for years while KDVR just got one back in 2000 and KWGN is the longer established of the two in general. You'd think that KWGN would be the one over KDVR. I guess that's just how the cookie crumbled.
     
  2. newsteam13

    newsteam13 Moderated User

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    I find it really disappointing that KDVR is the one to take over KWGN when KWGN had a news department for years while KDVR just got one back in 2000 and KWGN is the longer established of the two in general. You'd think that KWGN would be the one over KDVR. I guess that's just how the cookie crumbled.

    Yeah, but let's not forget that KWGN used to be located where KDVR sits now. That was 550 Lincoln Street, which is now 100 Speer Boulevard.

    And that was before 1980, when KWGN moved from 550 Lincoln Street to 6160 Wabash Way in Englewood.

    And WAAAAY before 2009, when CW2 moved back downtown, and moved in with FOX31 29 years later, and they share the building to this day.

    And certainly before July 2013, when CW2's longtime owner Tribune bought KDVR, and it made FOX31 sister station side by side with longtime station property CW2.

    Therefore CW2 is still FIRST over FOX31.
     
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  3. Myron Falwell

    Myron Falwell Director of Graphic Blandishment and Chroma Cues

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    You're forgetting that Tribune, for all intents and purposes, handed control of both KWGN and KPLR to LocalTV right as the 2008 Great Recession began. And of course the two former Fox O&Os would take priority, no matter which station was longer established (to wit, the KPLR building wound up housing both KPLR and KTVI only because KTVI's old studios were in an aging building in a less desirable part of STL).

    It wasn't just Atlanta and Boston Tribune foolishly left prematurely, it was Denver and St. Louis as well. Problem was, they had to buy all of LocalTV to get back in those latter two markets.
     
  4. scrabbleship

    scrabbleship Managing Editor

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    I don't think the sale of WATL was that foolish. Tribune tried to get some traction there but the post-9/11 downturn derailed things there badly because, IIRC, Tribune was in the process at setting up a news department there which evaporated into thin air. Had Tribune held onto them to this day, they would be mentioned alongside the KDAF/KIAH/WDCW/WSFL bunch, perhaps with a 10:00 news produced out of WHNT or WREG after the Local TV merger came in. Of the three 2006 sales, that was probably the best outcome given how then-WEWB was a foolish buy.

    I'll stand by my hot take that if Tribune held onto WLVI, they would be in that same pool of misfit stations. At least for them they would've been better off having access to the group power that Tribune has in terms of programming than being a third wheel for Sunbeam, acquired solely out of ego.
     
  5. LouGrant

    LouGrant Assignment Editor

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    Perhaps, but I think it's quite likely that if the sale to Sunbeam had never occurred, WLVI would have become the NBC station for Boston. Either as an affiliate under Tribune ownership or sold to the network, it would have become a much more valuable property and would still have its own spectrum.
     
  6. scrabbleship

    scrabbleship Managing Editor

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    There was the little problem of that they were locked into a ten-year contract with The CW and those contracts were near ironclad. Had WSBK have become CW from the outset, I would have been a lot more inclined to buy the idea of NBC going after WLVI but it was pretty bold of a move for Tribune to saddle WLVI with that then put it on the market.

    Boston was a strong market for both UPN and The WB and I'm sure that there was some horse trading behind closed doors between CBS, Warner Bros, and Tribune before everything was announced. As the fate of WSBK was secure regardless of how they sided, it makes me wonder what Tribune's thought process was given the circumstances. Not getting CW was reason enough to back out of Atlanta while getting it in Albany made it easier to cash out, however nothing in Boston seems to fit.
     
  7. channel2

    channel2 Primary Anchor

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    They were able to void KSWB's deal with The CW so it could join Fox within two years...
     
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    TSSZNews Primary Anchor

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    Which is almost certainly why Ansin bought it - not that it mattered in the end!
     
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  9. televisionguy16

    televisionguy16 News Director

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    Whatever the case, I keep hearing that WLVI will be stuck as an independent eventually. There's always someone reporting that WSBK will get the CW.
     
  10. channel2

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    Weren't they on the same contract as the other Tribune CW stations? CBS could have taken the affiliation back in 2016 if they were.
     
  11. televisionguy16

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    They were and there's still no one that's said that they've renewed it. WLVI may be running programming without a network contract if that's the case and if they are, I'm surprised it hasn't already moved over.

    If Sinclair would have went on with it's purchase of Tribune, I firmly expected CBS to take back the affiliation in all of the Tribune/CBS+ overlapping markets. As for Miami, it's only a matter of time before WBFS is the CW station there.
     
  12. channel2

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    If that were the case then maybe CBS just doesn't care. The CW is pretty low-priority for them.
     
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    nomadcowatbk Primary Anchor

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    As for 120 jobs being lost: did it really take 52 people in Houston to do Newsfix? I always saw it as something the local high school could do using PowerPoint...

    Just sayin’...

    J
     
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    Where the hell have you been? The music is an update from Non-stop (WPIX V.2). Also the graphics are from Tribune Creative. It's the creative hub.

     
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  16. Ramona

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    If there has been an extension, it is not mentioned in the FCC contract list which has not been updated for WLVI since 2013.
     
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  17. televisionguy16

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    Someone check WSBK just to make sure we didn't miss anything. They may be preparing to move it onto 38 as soon as next summer.
     
  18. Ramona

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    It has no agreements on file.
     
  19. televisionguy16

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    How do you get to the contract lists anyway? Just curious?
     
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    Through the FCC's public file database. Some stations post a list of contracts and others post the contracts themselves.
     

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