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Discussion in 'General TV' started by n925tv, Feb 20, 2015.

  1. n925tv

    n925tv AM Anchor

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    KFMB just bought a new ENG Live truck. Their Chopper 8 footage seems much more stable looking, did they get a new chopper? Sounds different then their ol' Bell 206.
     
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    Do you have any pics of the new ENG truck? I've been trying to see if anything's changed with their chopper, but I haven't found anything to indicate otherwise. They are due to at the very least get a new paint job on it as it still has the old logo. I don't know what setup they have in the chopper but ever since they upgraded the camera to HD, they've had image/signal issues and the pictures don't look as crisp as the LA tv stations choppers.
     
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    At a minimum they could have upgraded the camera on the helicopter. Last year WCAU changed the camera on Skyforce 10 from a FLIR based system to Cineflex. I asked one of their photographers and they stated the Cineflex gimbal system was a much more stable platform.
     
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    Here's a pic of the new ENG truck. Gene posted the pic on his FB.

    As for their chopper, I can definitely tell they are now using a Cineflex cam. The FLIR camera that they were formerly using, was very choppy looking, lots of shaking in the image quality. I have suspicion that they are using a AS350B helicopter, like most LA Stations. One reason why, is because during the traffic report tonight around 5, they were hovering in one place. Usually with their old chopper (Bell-206), they almost never hovered, just flew in circles. Not sure about this, but I don't think the 206's can hover very well, if at all. I know that the AS 350 choppers hover, as the LA stations do it for almost every traffic report.

    Lastly, I would be VERY surprised if they put a Cineflex on their old Bell chopper. Time will tell...
     

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    Got the answer. They're using a loaner helicopter, because Chopper 8 has repairs longer than usual. Regular Chopper 8 should be back in service next week. Info from Phil.
     
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    So it's back to the same old crappy picture quality next week. It seems like Chopper 8 is down several times a week, I don't know how the stations can be happy with the service that is provided. Anyone know how long the helicopter sharing agreement is for?
     
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    Unfortunately, yes. Even Phil said he likes this camera way better than the old FLIR one. Maybe this will be the final straw for Chopper 8, they'll just stay with this loaner one.

    I'm still betting on KSWB to get a chopper. They've been using some helicopter shots for their promos of their live trucks. One of the promos was from last week when the morning news was live in Coronado. Another promo was from a few months back, briefly showed their truck driving past Ponto St. Beach. I can tell those shots were definitely not from KFMB's chopper. Must have been a helicopter from ACA in Pacoima, which KTLA uses.

    BTW, I don't see KGTV getting a new chopper, as they just stopped using their old one. KNSD might get one when they move back to Kearny Mesa, but who knows.
     
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    Did he say what kind of chopper the loaner was? Yeah, I figure KGTV has no plans for a chopper anytime soon, heck they even added an animated sky 10 in the top right hand corner when they show chopper footage. KNSD is an iffy one as several other NBC O&O's have been getting their choppers back but it seems like they've been told to cut back on expenses as you can tell that they're relying more on iphone/cellular bonded liveshots plus several of their mic flags are either broken or scuffed up. Point is, who knows if they'll get their chopper back seeing as that the priority right now is the new building.
     
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    Easy way to tell - JetRangers have a very distinct engine/rotor noise inside the cabin, sounding like this.

    Eurocopter AS350Bs have three rotor blades and its Arriel engine sounds quite a bit different from inside the cabin.

    Both are rotary aircraft, so they all have the ability to hover. JetRangers are considerably louder due to the twin rotor blades (more of a pronounced chop-chop-chop) so I'd imagine they limit the hovering to reduce noise complaints, especially over residential areas. The AS350 is considerably quieter in comparison.
     
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    Thanks for the insight. From one of the videos on KFMB's website (Friday's standoff with a suicidal man), you can hear the chop-chop-chop of the engine. Is it more costly to operate an AS350 than a Bell Ranger?
     
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    Hourly operating cost of a JetRanger is a bit lower than the AS350 series, yes. I don't have the hard numbers, but from what I remember, it's less.

    Bell helicopters are also thought to be a bit more reliable and cheaper to maintain than those from Eurocopter. It's akin to Ford vs. Mercedes—cheaper to maintain, but the import will perform a bit better.
     
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    Is KFMB still with National Helicopter? And from those pics, I wonder if the backup chopper is the ex-KCBS/KCAL bird.
     
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    Yes, that helicopter was the former Sky 2. Sky 2, is now with Helinet, based out of Van Nuys Airport.

    From the National Helicopter website, KFMB's chopper feed link is still on their page. BTW, the regular Chopper 8 is back. Sigh.
     
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    Yes, that helicopter was the former Sky 2. Sky 2, is now with Helinet, based out of Van Nuys Airport.

    From the National Helicopter website, KFMB's chopper feed link is still on their page. BTW, the regular Chopper 8 is back. Sigh.
     
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    I'm suprised they didn't get one with SNG capabilities, their current one is growing older in years.

    Also, I'm hearing KSWB got a new live truck, unknown what model they got. They've got quite a few E150 ENG trucks, only one DSNG truck from what I know, and that mini Subraru car.
     
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    What KFMB needs is some HD cameras. Every other station has HD cameras, some are capable of doing HD live shots. At this stage, there is no excuse not to have them when they have the money to spend on sets, etc.
     
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    Also their "portable" transmitters, they also don't help with the quality.
     
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    Those are likely either LiveU (or similar) backpack units that rely on variety of cellular data cards to transmit & receive (ifb). They're highly dependent on celltower proximity & usage. Daytime hours with high cellular use are the worst.
     

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